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Post by jinxxed on Mar 23, 2010 18:23:48 GMT -5
Obviously somebody doesn't know how hormonal birth control works. The correlary to this is that pregnancy makes a woman's body diseased, since it's no longer able to conceive for the duration and a brief period afterward. I most certainly do and i can tell you that the state that excessive progesteron or prog/est combos put a womans body into is not a natural state, it is per definition a diseased state just as much as test/andros will put a mans body into if consumed or injected. For some reason, progs/ests, while having a LOT more problems and side effects than something like test undecanoate would have for a man, is regarded as something women should be taking. For women, IUD's will not only work just as good or better, it's also a hell of a lot better for the woman, the hormonal effects of progs/ests are pretty horrible and it's not something that just goes away after stopping the usage of them either, it can and will in some cases cause chronical disease. That wasn't his point though, his point was that being unable to concieve isn't a natural state and since it's not, it's clearly a diseased state (look up what the word means if you are going to argue against it because pregnancy is a natural state).
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Post by Nihilist on Mar 23, 2010 18:28:00 GMT -5
Obviously somebody doesn't know how hormonal birth control works. The correlary to this is that pregnancy makes a woman's body diseased, since it's no longer able to conceive for the duration and a brief period afterward. I most certainly do and i can tell you that the state that excessive progesteron or prog/est combos put a womans body into is not a natural state, it is per definition a diseased state just as much as test/andros will put a mans body into if consumed or injected. For some reason, progs/ests, while having a LOT more problems and side effects than something like test undecanoate would have for a man, is regarded as something women should be taking. For women, IUD's will not only work just as good or better, it's also a hell of a lot better for the woman, the hormonal effects of progs/ests are pretty horrible and it's not something that just goes away after stopping the usage of them either, it can and will in some cases cause chronical disease. That wasn't his point though, his point was that being unable to concieve isn't a natural state and since it's not, it's clearly a diseased state (look up what the word means if you are going to argue against it because pregnancy is a natural state). Lol look at you, talking about women's bodies when you've got the body of a man, dood. Unless there's something you're not telling me, and want to come out as trans any moment now.
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Post by jinxxed on Mar 24, 2010 19:09:57 GMT -5
I most certainly do and i can tell you that the state that excessive progesteron or prog/est combos put a womans body into is not a natural state, it is per definition a diseased state just as much as test/andros will put a mans body into if consumed or injected. For some reason, progs/ests, while having a LOT more problems and side effects than something like test undecanoate would have for a man, is regarded as something women should be taking. For women, IUD's will not only work just as good or better, it's also a hell of a lot better for the woman, the hormonal effects of progs/ests are pretty horrible and it's not something that just goes away after stopping the usage of them either, it can and will in some cases cause chronical disease. That wasn't his point though, his point was that being unable to concieve isn't a natural state and since it's not, it's clearly a diseased state (look up what the word means if you are going to argue against it because pregnancy is a natural state). Lol look at you, talking about women's bodies when you've got the body of a man, dood. Unless there's something you're not telling me, and want to come out as trans any moment now. Great, not only did i get a stalker, i got a stalker who needs to have a reboot of his brain and start over in life. Biologists do know gender specifics, when you grow up (if you ever will) then perhaps even you will learn these things, they are taught in high scool so for you it's probably not more than a decade away before you get to learn this. Last i checked, you don't need to BE a car to be a car mechanic either.... Perhaps it's just that you are extremely stupid? Besides, shouldn't you be on the street with a sign protesting male AND femal doctors since they are obviously BOTH gender discriminating after your own beliefs of biological knowledge? Now go away retard, or i shall taunt you again.
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Post by Nihilist on Mar 24, 2010 19:48:20 GMT -5
Great, not only did i get a stalker, i got a stalker who needs to have a reboot of his brain and start over in life. Come on, dude. I only jokingly asked you if you were a closeted transwoman. No need to break out the insults, there's nothing wrong with being trans. Biologists do know gender specifics, when you grow up (if you ever will) then perhaps even you will learn these things, they are taught in high scool so for you it's probably not more than a decade away before you get to learn this. I am aware of the biological specifics, perhaps painfully so but nonetheless, the knowledge is there. I'm loving how you misspelled "school", instead writing it as "scool". Nice going. Last i checked, you don't need to BE a car to be a car mechanic either.... That's a good attitude to have- again, I was just joking. No need to bust out the full-on insults as if I just... kicked your puppy. Perhaps it's just that you are extremely stupid? Naw, I like poking beehives. Besides, shouldn't you be on the street with a sign protesting male AND femal doctors since they are obviously BOTH gender discriminating after your own beliefs of biological knowledge? Ha ha, no. I was merely stating this, because, well, I'm trans myself. You can't take a joke well, and frankly I find that hilarious. It's like if I poke you you'll turn into a big ball of BAWWWWW because you know about hormones and how proper they are. Hormones, proper. Well certainly, if you're "normal". Now go away retard, or i shall taunt you again. You have no idea how much this makes me laugh.
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Post by jinxxed on Mar 24, 2010 20:04:58 GMT -5
Great, not only did i get a stalker, i got a stalker who needs to have a reboot of his brain and start over in life. Come on, dude. I only jokingly asked you if you were a closeted transwoman. No need to break out the insults, there's nothing wrong with being trans. I am aware of the biological specifics, perhaps painfully so but nonetheless, the knowledge is there. I'm loving how you misspelled "school", instead writing it as "scool". Nice going. That's a good attitude to have- again, I was just joking. No need to bust out the full-on insults as if I just... kicked your puppy. Naw, I like poking beehives. Ha ha, no. I was merely stating this, because, well, I'm trans myself. You can't take a joke well, and frankly I find that hilarious. It's like if I poke you you'll turn into a big ball of BAWWWWW because you know about hormones and how proper they are. Hormones, proper. Well certainly, if you're "normal". Now go away retard, or i shall taunt you again. You have no idea how much this makes me laugh. I don't care if you are a transsexual, i doubt anyone but you cares about it either so perhaps you should think of something that you have accomplished to define yourself after. Going after spelling mistakes is really not the thing to do though, we all make them and English is my third language (or fifth depending on what nation i am in at the moment). You went head on on a new poster at this forum, most of your bullsheit was just daft so i left the thread and you continously followed me around ever since, throwing insults left and right. Now, i don't have anything good to say about you at all, you seem uneducted and quite frankly hostile and needy. If you have been derided for being a transexual that isn't MY bloody fault and you shouldn't bash me for that. I ignored you and you kept on going, kept on trolling i might add since you are targeting me and not the discussion at hand. Just stay away from me as i'll stay away from you and i doubt we'll have any problems here. Thank you and cheerio.
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Post by Vene on Mar 24, 2010 21:30:32 GMT -5
Gender? Biology? Hey! I know about these things. I should hope I do, considering I have a biology degree. Personally, I suggest we talk about the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis, but that's just me.
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Post by jaHer on Mar 25, 2010 5:44:28 GMT -5
jinxxed, are you sure you're not my mother? I mean seriously. Would be interesting to find out my mother was a transman. Anyway...
Sweetie, don't flatter yourself. You are not special enough to warrant being followed around just to reply to your bullshit posts.
Now...
"Natural state?" Does birth control turn a female-bodied individual gaseous? Why do we even give a flying squirrel about "natural states?" Do you honestly think that nature has it all right and can do no harm or malfunction?
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Post by jinxxed on Mar 29, 2010 16:02:23 GMT -5
jinxxed, are you sure you're not my mother? I mean seriously. Would be interesting to find out my mother was a transman. Anyway... Sweetie, don't flatter yourself. You are not special enough to warrant being followed around just to reply to your bullshit posts. Now... "Natural state?" Does birth control turn a female-bodied individual gaseous? Why do we even give a flying squirrel about "natural states?" Do you honestly think that nature has it all right and can do no harm or malfunction? I know it's had enough sober but when you're high on meth perhaps you should refrain from posting? The first reply was to Nihilst, he replied to it and all is well, that you thought that it was for you might have something to do with you being to high to use the intarwebs? Natural states, biologically speaking, are states where the human body is healthy. Unnatural states is where it is not. Exceeding normal levels of progestines is harmful for males AND females, if you don't think it is, YOU go on womens birth control, they will make you as infertile as they would make her. I'm a biochemist and i can tell you that the thought of introducing the pill was a bad one. It has had a horrendous effect on over one hundred million women since. A woman on the birth control pill is not the SAME WOMAN as she would be if she was off it. Hormones DO affect our brain, this has been known since the 20's but back in the day when it was introduced it was a mans world. I'd suggest that a woman who don't want to have a child require that the man wears a condom which also protects from STD's, if you are in a relationship then make him take test undecanoate, he can get it you know, his balls will shrivel but that is about the only side effect.
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Post by Nyarai on Mar 30, 2010 12:58:14 GMT -5
I'd suggest that a woman who don't want to have a child require that the man wears a condom which also protects from STD's, if you are in a relationship then make him take test undecanoate, he can get it you know, his balls will shrivel but that is about the only side effect. I'm cringing and I don't even have balls. Also, I'm not sure what you're talking about, since what I've read about this drug seems to indicate that it increases male sex drive and... not much else.
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