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Post by wackadoodle on Mar 29, 2009 13:44:33 GMT -5
I don't see how its any different from creationism. They both refuse to accept any scientific theory that doesnt bend over to include their magic pixie. I dont see how Godidit is any different from Godsecretlycontrolledit.
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Post by Star Cluster on Mar 29, 2009 13:54:04 GMT -5
At least those that subscribe to theistic evolution are seceding to all the evidence that evolution took place. And it isn't necessarily that God controlled it, but merely set it in motion. Although it combines a creator God with evolutionary science, it's still a far cry from what any real evidence shows.
It's a step forward for some followers of Christianity. And that's good. Baby steps are necessary before a full-on gallop can be achieved.
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Post by antichrist on Mar 29, 2009 14:46:50 GMT -5
I'd rather they believed that evolution happened with a nudge from God, then the bullshit I'm hearing lately. At least they're acknowledging the evidence.
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Post by Mira on Mar 29, 2009 14:53:18 GMT -5
I agree with Antichrist and Starcluster, they are at least acknowledging the evidence unlike creationists.
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Post by wackadoodle on Mar 29, 2009 15:11:42 GMT -5
Theirs no evidence for god being behind it though. Its just an easier to swallow creationism.
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Post by Sigmaleph on Mar 29, 2009 15:33:39 GMT -5
I prefer it to creationism. I do not like it, per se, but it is a positive step forward. So no, I don't hate it.
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Post by Sandafluffoid on Mar 29, 2009 15:36:39 GMT -5
There is no evidence for god behind it, but since most theists ignore the burden of proof our lack of evidence for no god means it's probably the best compromise we're likely to get.
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Post by Star Cluster on Mar 29, 2009 15:42:22 GMT -5
Theirs no evidence for god being behind it though. Its just an easier to swallow creationism. Well, of course not. Not one shred. But religion has been around for so long, it has become ingrained in most people and they are not going to let it go easily. That is why any concession on their parts to real evidence is a good thing. Again, baby steps. It took a couple million years for humans to evolve. To get the bulk of humanity to let go of myths and legends will not be achieved overnight regardless of the evidence, rationality, or just plain common sense. |
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 29, 2009 16:02:22 GMT -5
I don't care if they think God created evolution or not. Evolution is a process which says nothing about their imaginary characters. Whether it was God, Gandalf or Geoffrey the Giraffe, they can believe all they want as to the source.
The reasoning behind it does worry me, but I don't hate it or automatically think it immediately wrong.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Mar 29, 2009 17:59:18 GMT -5
Oh, you're not alone. My mother (who has a Bachelor's in science) believes God caused evolution. She furthermore believes that every bit of evolution is just as described in textbooks--save human evolution. God made humans special, and they do NOT have a common ancestor with apes. .-. Sometimes I do not like living with this woman.
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Post by deliciousdemon on Mar 29, 2009 18:22:54 GMT -5
God made humans special, and they do NOT have a common ancestor with apes. .-. Sometimes I do not like living with this woman. That'd be a bit hard to stomach. |
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Post by Vene on Mar 30, 2009 9:52:40 GMT -5
It depends. I've met some TEs who insist their god did 'such and such' and that bothers me. DarkfireTaimatsu's mom makes a good example, even if I never met her. Then there are those who accept evolution as evolution, they don't invoke a god, they're just theists. Granted, the people in the later category tend to either be scientists or science students.
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Post by Paradox on Mar 30, 2009 12:29:05 GMT -5
I would probably fit Vene's second description. I can't think of any way in which I would disagree with any of you on evolution-related matters. What God does is His business.
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Post by gotpwnt on Mar 31, 2009 21:05:48 GMT -5
I'd rather they believed that evolution happened with a nudge from God, then the bullshit I'm hearing lately. At least they're acknowledging the evidence. |
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Post by The_L on Apr 2, 2009 15:15:48 GMT -5
Man, if you think it's messed up for Christians to do the whole theistic-evolution thing, you'd probably really hate Scott Cunningham's explanation of it.
According to his personal beliefs, evolution happened because the gods craved diversity and encouraged it to take form in the universe. Natural selection was just sort of along for the ride.
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