Lucifer
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Post by Lucifer on Aug 1, 2010 13:49:10 GMT -5
Very true, Worlder. Note: Climate change has proof done by meticulous scientists the other two did not and where more likely to be held by the religious people of the time.
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Post by Professor Cold Heart on Aug 1, 2010 14:18:35 GMT -5
I guess the UK has its fair share of rabid racial-nationalists. What baffles me is that the white couple's pro-England shirts have plainly been photoshopped on. EDIT: My sticky R key resulted in me typing "pro-England shits". Heh.
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Post by the sandman on Aug 1, 2010 14:51:44 GMT -5
Yeah this one caught my eye, too. The first two statements were strongly pushed and backed by the church for religious reasons, and since the motives behind them were dogmatic, they resisted scientific inquiry and evidence for a very long time before eventually being overturned by the sheer weight of truth. The last panel is reversed from the pattern. If you want it to follow the pattern established by the first two panels, it should read "Human accelerated global climate change is a myth! Debate over!" As the cartoon is presented, it is very disingenuous to the point of outright inanity. And the sad thing is that the cartoonist probably has no idea.
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Post by sithyeti on Aug 1, 2010 15:01:14 GMT -5
Yeah this one caught my eye, too. The first two statements were strongly pushed and backed by the church for religious reasons, and since the motives behind them were dogmatic, they resisted scientific inquiry and evidence for a very long time before eventually being overturned by the sheer weight of truth. The last panel is reversed from the pattern. If you want it to follow the pattern established by the first two panels, it should read "Human accelerated global climate change is a myth! Debate over!" As the cartoon is presented, it is very disingenuous to the point of outright inanity. And the sad thing is that the cartoonist probably has no idea. Never mind the fact that the research isn't over.
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Post by ltfred on Aug 1, 2010 15:20:59 GMT -5
Science is never finished. Evolutionary science 'isn't over'. Presumably evolution is also false.
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Post by dasfuchs on Aug 1, 2010 15:43:43 GMT -5
Yeah this one caught my eye, too. The first two statements were strongly pushed and backed by the church for religious reasons, and since the motives behind them were dogmatic, they resisted scientific inquiry and evidence for a very long time before eventually being overturned by the sheer weight of truth. The last panel is reversed from the pattern. If you want it to follow the pattern established by the first two panels, it should read "Human accelerated global climate change is a myth! Debate over!" As the cartoon is presented, it is very disingenuous to the point of outright inanity. And the sad thing is that the cartoonist probably has no idea. Eh, it's just a sketchy way to link scientists together. "See, they were wrong in the past, they can be wrong now*" *unless it supports my views
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Post by worlder on Aug 1, 2010 16:40:27 GMT -5
Yeah this one caught my eye, too. The first two statements were strongly pushed and backed by the church for religious reasons, and since the motives behind them were dogmatic, they resisted scientific inquiry and evidence for a very long time before eventually being overturned by the sheer weight of truth. The last panel is reversed from the pattern. If you want it to follow the pattern established by the first two panels, it should read "Human accelerated global climate change is a myth! Debate over!" As the cartoon is presented, it is very disingenuous to the point of outright inanity. And the sad thing is that the cartoonist probably has no idea. Eh, it's just a sketchy way to link scientists together. "See, they were wrong in the past, they can be wrong now*" *unless it supports my views Science has been the old vs the new in some cases. Sometimes the old won't gracefully bow down and sometimes the new just isn't science. So are the the climatologists on the old or the new?
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Post by Vene on Aug 1, 2010 17:55:05 GMT -5
Science has been the old vs the new in some cases. Sometimes the old won't gracefully bow down and sometimes the new just isn't science. So are the the climatologists on the old or the new? I'm not sure what you're talking about with the old and the new, but I can say that global warming is very much real and has been confirmed by other sciences like chemistry and physics.
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Post by Mantorok on Aug 1, 2010 19:30:34 GMT -5
Here I was thinking the first two panels are presented out of order. We knew the Earth was round before we knew it wasn't the centre of the solar system.
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Post by chad sexington on Aug 2, 2010 1:52:04 GMT -5
Yeah, the flat-earth theory fell out of favour around the time of the Roman Empire, and I'm pretty sure the ancient greeks viewed the universe as heliocentric.
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Post by Sigmaleph on Aug 2, 2010 20:26:13 GMT -5
Yeah, the flat-earth theory fell out of favour around the time of the Roman Empire, and I'm pretty sure the ancient greeks viewed the universe as heliocentric. I'm pretty sure they didn't. Most of them, that is, not counting Aristarchus and a few others. The Ptolemaic model lasted until about the 16th century. Flat Earth was known to be false by the ancient Greeks, though.
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Post by MaybeNever on Aug 2, 2010 20:56:19 GMT -5
Yeah, the Greeks had all the tools they needed to figure out that the Earth isn't flat, but I believe that rebutting geocentrism requires reasonably sophisticated telescopes of the sort that wouldn't be around in Europe until the renaissance.
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Post by katz on Aug 2, 2010 21:31:42 GMT -5
This is doubly hilarious because there was a run of Evil Dead comic books where Ash saves Obama from a zombie outbreak.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Aug 3, 2010 0:20:45 GMT -5
Re: Climate change is human caused.
I think that's poor word choice. Saying "human caused" makes it sound like humans are the reason it's happening. Which is utterly fucking ludicrous. Humans are, however, a contributing factor. [/tangent]
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Post by Julian on Aug 3, 2010 4:10:03 GMT -5
Re: Climate change is human caused. I think that's poor word choice. Saying "human caused" makes it sound like humans are the reason it's happening. Which is utterly fucking ludicrous. Humans are, however, a contributing factor. [/tangent] Well being that 1/. it was an idiot trying to pretend it wasn't true, you can't expect them to be hot on semantics. Plus you might actually try to find one who's trying to pretend climactic cycles existing before human beings evolved is 'proof' they can't be effecting it now. 2/. Climate change - the problematic catastrophic climate change which will cause mass extinctions if left unchecked - IS being caused by humans - either with their unbalancing greenhouse gas emissions, or with deforestation and changes in land use. And there IS no doubt about this. It is not three true statements.
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