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Post by devilschaplain2 on Aug 9, 2010 16:48:54 GMT -5
Totally missing the point:
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Post by worlder on Aug 9, 2010 16:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Aug 9, 2010 17:54:27 GMT -5
Got this one from your links: Wow, what a tremendous dickbag.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Aug 9, 2010 17:57:37 GMT -5
WTF?
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Aug 9, 2010 18:38:57 GMT -5
Wow. None of what appears in this cartoon is accurate. Jesus-Christ-monkey-balls...
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Post by renaissanceblonde on Aug 9, 2010 18:46:49 GMT -5
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WTF?
Some of these are just vile.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Aug 9, 2010 19:05:03 GMT -5
Tillman was actually opposed to the War in Iraq and was killed by friendly fire. Not to mention there's no evidence that he was a racist who joined the military to kill Arabs.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Aug 9, 2010 21:32:54 GMT -5
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Post by sugarfreejazz on Aug 9, 2010 23:24:05 GMT -5
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Post by MaybeNever on Aug 9, 2010 23:28:46 GMT -5
Tillman was actually opposed to the War in Iraq and was killed by friendly fire. Not to mention there's no evidence that he was a racist who joined the military to kill Arabs. None of which appears to have anything to do with the comic. If anything, it paints him as a well-meaning, patriotic victim of the entire charade that got us into Iraq, and moreso a victim of the catastrophic bungling of the war once it actually got going.
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Post by nickiknack on Aug 9, 2010 23:42:11 GMT -5
I personally, overall like Ted Rall's cartoons, but there are times in which he does go overboard and those two cartoons are a fine example of Ted Rall going way overboard
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Aug 10, 2010 0:05:39 GMT -5
Tillman was actually opposed to the War in Iraq and was killed by friendly fire. Not to mention there's no evidence that he was a racist who joined the military to kill Arabs. None of which appears to have anything to do with the comic. If anything, it paints him as a well-meaning, patriotic victim of the entire charade that got us into Iraq, and moreso a victim of the catastrophic bungling of the war once it actually got going. Are you sure we're talking about the same cartoon? "Nevermind the fine print. Will I get to kill Arabs?" Then he says "Makes sense" after the recruiter talks about how Iraq was connected to 9/11. Then he was mocked as an idiot and a sap, not some unfortunate victim.
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Post by georgebullocks on Aug 10, 2010 0:11:13 GMT -5
Tillman was actually opposed to the War in Iraq and was killed by friendly fire. Not to mention there's no evidence that he was a racist who joined the military to kill Arabs. None of which appears to have anything to do with the comic. If anything, it paints him as a well-meaning, patriotic victim of the entire charade that got us into Iraq, and moreso a victim of the catastrophic bungling of the war once it actually got going. Whatever this comic tries to paint him it's still grossly inaccurate on multiple magnitude.
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Aug 10, 2010 3:51:01 GMT -5
"Nevermind the fine print. Will I get to kill Arabs?" As a card carrying lefty this shit pisses me right off. If the cartoonist wants to shit all over the facts for the sake of entertainment and build his strawmen from the bones of real tragedies he's no different from the wankers at Faux News!
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Post by ltfred on Aug 10, 2010 7:52:09 GMT -5
Wow. None of what appears in this cartoon is accurate. The best that can be said is that not everything is incorrect. Although the central thesis is demonstably bullshit and wrong, Al Qeda is based in Pakistan (not Afghanistan, certainly not Iraq), is supported by the Saudis and the US millitary did allow the destruction and looting of Iraqi museums while protecting oil interests. The worst thing about the 'thieving widows' story is what provoked it. Many widows were not happy with Bush's investigation into the attack, insisting that what later became the 9/11 Report be created. To the right, that constituted accusing their hero Bush of unpatriotism. In return, Anne Coulter (for instance) described them as 'harpies'- for nothing more than wanting what happened to them never to happen again.
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