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Post by the sandman on Sept 3, 2010 17:29:26 GMT -5
I can't tell whether this is trying to be anti- atheistscienceliberal, anti-Christian, or both. I think it is trying to say that Christians attack the evils liberals or atheists or whatever support meanwhile Atheists try to destroy the base of Christianity. It has long been the contention of Evangelicals that the true foundation of Christianity is the creation story found in Genesis. It's asinine, of course, but there it is. The reasoning goes something along the lines of "if even one thing in the Bible is shown to be false, then all of it is suspect." Utterly ludicrous. If the creation in Genesis turns out to be (and it is) one big allegory, this doesn't have the slightest effect on the actual doctrines and beliefs of Christianity or the actual teachings of Jesus. It's like they believe that if one fact in a history book is wrong, that makes the whole book wrong. Logic just doesn't work that way. I mean, seriously, half of everything Jesus said was an allegory or a parable. Apparently Jesus can speak in allegory, but not anyone else. I guess it's one of his Jesus super-powers. Of course, I suspect the real reason they want to establish creationism as the basis for Christianity is that this allows them to shift the entire focus of the religion off of the actual teachings of Christ and into the Old Testament, which is far more to their liking.
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Post by MaybeNever on Sept 3, 2010 17:50:07 GMT -5
I love the "atheist critical thinking" sign in the blessed cause picture. Is it only the critical thinking of atheists that affects Christianity, or is all critical thinking inherently atheist? I'm also not surprised but I am saddened to see the ACLU included there. At least the other groups (notwithstanding the Department of Education) are basically proscribed by Christianity. The ACLU is only the enemy of theocrats and tyrants... but I repeat myself.
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Post by storymoron on Sept 3, 2010 18:01:46 GMT -5
And for those that aren't sure, roughly 10 years ago Matthew Shepard was killed in Wyoming. At this point, I want to have gay sex purely out of spite against such people. I figure that, short of flying over and verbally tearing them a new one, it's the only way I can win.
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Post by Her3tiK on Sept 3, 2010 18:44:26 GMT -5
...is all critical thinking inherently atheist? It is if you're thinking about religion. Were one to give too much thought to it, especially the particular religion they follow, chances are pretty good that their faith would die.
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Post by Distind on Sept 3, 2010 19:55:32 GMT -5
I mean, seriously, half of everything Jesus said was an allegory or a parable. Apparently Jesus can speak in allegory, but not anyone else. I guess it's one of his Jesus super-powers. Of course, I suspect the real reason they want to establish creationism as the basis for Christianity is that this allows them to shift the entire focus of the religion off of the actual teachings of Christ and into the Old Testament, which is far more to their liking. I'm not sure it's even that well planned, I'm honestly thinking they don't know, nor do they actually want to know, what Jesus said or did. If something in the bible is questioned they'd have to actually read it and understand it to defend it. But they won't, look at things like the conservapedia bible project, they're barely reading the parts they don't like, and the closest they get to understanding it is where they twist it to support their own pre-concieved political goals. Disturbing as it is, I acutally find them less respectful of their own religion than I am. At least I have the decency to claim my political views are my own, and I don't attempt to force them onto a long pre-existing god figure. Nor do I mock that god figure for not sharing my beliefs. In fact I've often taken indisputably socialist or pro-government passages and presented them to these same people only to be told since I'm a non believer I don't understand them. When your freaking god tells you to leave the corner of your fields for the poor to pick over, what the hell else does it mean? When you god says to pay what is due to your government regardless of your opinion of it, what the else could that mean? To them, it means they shouldn't read that part because it doesn't agree with them. Or at least that's really what it looks like to me, though the ones I argue with are likely on the far, far right of the situtation.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Sept 3, 2010 20:23:21 GMT -5
What the...just...ugh...*head explodes from hatred*
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Sept 3, 2010 21:25:22 GMT -5
I wonder what Blessedcause thinks about that girl that was banned from going to the prom because she was lesbian? Don't forget that she wanted to crossdress and the school recently had made rules against crossdressing because they kicked out a trans student. Also, not a cartoon, but posting it anyway. Have some Montana Teabaggers. And for those that aren't sure, roughly 10 years ago Matthew Shepard was killed in Wyoming. Looks like I need to change my last post in a different thread...oh, bigotry, will you never die...
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Post by Vene on Sept 3, 2010 22:32:03 GMT -5
Looks like I need to change my last post in a different thread...oh, bigotry, will you never die... Of course it won't, our brains are wired so that there is the "us" and the "them." The "them" can and will change, and the way the "them" is treated will change, but as long as we are human, it will exist.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Sept 4, 2010 21:45:11 GMT -5
Why aren't these people aware that you don't vote in a king?
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Post by storymoron on Sept 4, 2010 22:07:09 GMT -5
Why aren't these people aware? "Fix'd."
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Post by spaniel on Sept 4, 2010 22:33:02 GMT -5
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Post by Shane for Wax on Sept 5, 2010 0:40:11 GMT -5
Oh, I've seen that picture on the sunflower seeds before. Most def. Like this? yes.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Sept 5, 2010 5:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by matante on Sept 5, 2010 8:45:05 GMT -5
Why aren't these people aware that you don't vote in a king? Actually, I know of a town (I damn wish I remembered its name) who changed the title of mayor for king. That was because the region has been known as the Kingdom of Saguenay for centuries, and they thought actually having a king would be good for tourism. That little technical change also makes it the only kingdom in the Americas.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Sept 5, 2010 9:08:42 GMT -5
Why aren't these people aware that you don't vote in a king? Actually, I know of a town (I damn wish I remembered its name) who changed the title of mayor for king. That was because the region has been known as the Kingdom of Saguenay for centuries, and they thought actually having a king would be good for tourism. That little technical change also makes it the only kingdom in the Americas. "Contrary to popular belief, I did not just buy a crown at the costume palace and ask people to start calling me the King of Town. I earned my title, the same way I earned a free combo meal by purchasing one of equal or lesser value." -- The King of Town of Free Country, USA=3
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