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Post by The_L on Sept 26, 2010 8:32:30 GMT -5
I just have a hard time accepting that human nature has changed in 50 years. I have a much easier time accepting that it's a false past. But it is interesting to see the 60s as the ideal age instead of the 50s. I would disagree, as it is not really the human nature but the culture that has changed. Many parents are a lot more over protective of their kids it today, granting them less and less autonomy. I would say that a reasonable side effect of that over protection is the idea that if their kid isn't doing well in school, it is because the teacher is doing a bad job. Though I hasten to add that, in my experiences as student, I saw more parents getting lippy with teachers over punishments rather than grades. IE, they can believe their snowflake got a "D" but not that he told another kid to "fuck off" in the middle of class. NCLB was originally intended to get rid of the people who, while not criminals, still didn't need to be teaching children. Unfortunately, it backfired, scaring away a lot of teachers. Primarily because the way "reform" was implemented was by requiring MORE paperwork and MORE standardized testing, which left teachers less time to prepare good lessons and pretty much forced them to "teach to the test." Also screwed over students with severe test anxiety.
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Post by sonickid01 on Sept 26, 2010 11:44:59 GMT -5
Yeesh. Although, I have to wonder... does the second really happen all that much? Yes. Constantly. I went to a private school for seventh and eighth grades, and although it was easy as hell and somewhat reputable, the school had gone down significantly in quality during the time I was there from six or seven years in the past. There was a lot of quality cutting in quality for exactly the reason in this comic, actually. The school was rather affluent due to the constant donations from a handful of families whose children attended the school. I particularly remember a lot of complaints in seventh grade due to the math curriculum and how students would fail tests and homework because they refused to study and were able to relegate the problem to authority by just complaining to their parents about how "the teacher's too hard, the work is unfair." The parents would go to the principal and demand that the coursework is lessened so their child may pass, and the principal directly bullied the teachers into lowering standards. As a result the teachers were often frustrated with the system and had to ensure that every kid was making a good grade regardless of the cost, even if it meant lowering standards for those who understood material and catering to those who didn't. The pressure on teachers just came from the parents who were big contributors to the school rather than from the government, and looking back it was or almost was worse than a free public school education. I am very irritated with the lowering of standards to meet the kids, rather than forcing the kids to work for grades, that had gone on the whole time without me noticing. The homework and tests were generally never a problem, but I learned that my math teacher who quit before my 8th grade year would often cry from frustration at the principal. The history class was perhaps the best class and the most difficult class I had that year, and even then it still got pressured by trying to take out a weekly current events game in favor of more lectures. The history teacher subsequently quit as well the following year, and the year after that the science teacher, music teacher, orchestra teacher, and computer teacher left as I finished 8th grade. If you asked me it was a corrupt private school :/ Even now I can't take the school seriously. So tl;dnr: that comic matches pretty well with my middle school experiences.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Sept 26, 2010 13:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 26, 2010 13:32:36 GMT -5
RE: The grades comic and the confirmations about it
That is sad.
Further makes me glad I was home schooled. Then again, my mother was actually a competent teacher, not like most home schoolers you hear about. Believe me, I've met some home schoolers that made me internally scream "Put your kids in public school for the love of all that is good!"
So, thank you, Bush, for screwing over the school system. If I was public schooled instead of home schooled, I would've been in high school when his stupid NCLB system was put in place.
Still, though, I kinda prefer Japan's school system. For the earlier grades, it encourages teamwork, with the better students supporting the weaker students. It only gets competitive around high school.
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Post by Professor Cold Heart on Sept 27, 2010 14:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by MaybeNever on Sept 27, 2010 14:52:27 GMT -5
I love this cartoon so much. It may actually be the worst political cartoon I've ever seen.
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Post by Ian1732 on Sept 27, 2010 15:01:08 GMT -5
What the hell is it even trying to say?
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Post by MaybeNever on Sept 27, 2010 15:30:27 GMT -5
Hatedragon is obviously god, while swordarm robot is probably Jesus and Paris Hilton is the shield of Christ. Once hatedragon's false heads of lust and greed fell off, poisoning the world below, he became more powerful than we could ever imagine.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 27, 2010 16:18:29 GMT -5
That comic is racist against three headed dragons!! D:<
But seriously, what the hell? It's so... weird.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 27, 2010 16:57:10 GMT -5
So with God's help, I can one day achieve my lifelong dream of beheading hydras with the names of sins written on their heads using only a sword and a shield with "Paris Hilton" written on it?
My life now has newfound meaning and purpose.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Sept 27, 2010 21:37:50 GMT -5
Why does the URL on that last have the word "art" in it?
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Post by Kit Walker on Sept 27, 2010 23:25:28 GMT -5
I don't think it was the "witchcraft dabbling" per se that was considered ridiculous. It was the "first date on a satanic alter" bit.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 27, 2010 23:29:52 GMT -5
That was precisely it.
But anti-liberals don't like to actually pay attention to what liberals are saying, so... yeah.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Sept 27, 2010 23:38:41 GMT -5
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 27, 2010 23:42:15 GMT -5
Did they BOTHER to do any research on that?
Oh wait, I forgot, these are far right-wingers we're dealing with.
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