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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jan 15, 2011 14:16:05 GMT -5
Sorry, I have a deep subconscious hatred for that word and so much as thinking of typing it sends me into a rage. That's the same way I react to the word "faggot."
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Post by Sigmaleph on Jan 15, 2011 21:24:44 GMT -5
You say "just for the sake of having a few more kids read it" as if it was irrelevant. Newsflash, it isn't. Literature exists to be read. If it is not being read, it's just dead trees and ink. Getting people to read Huck Finn is the whole fucking point of wanting Huck Finn to exist. I don't support the censorship, partly because it would weaken the message of the text, partly out of principle. But getting kids to read it should not be dismissed out of hand. But if the message is the reason for having people read the book, and censoring it to get kids to read it dilutes the message, what's the point of having them read it in the first place? I know you said you opposed the censorship, I'm just saying that the purpose for reading Huck Finn is for its message, and in getting children to read it we're destroying part of that message, which defeats the purpose of having them read the book. Hope that made sense The book is not the word, though. Huck Finn without the word nigger may not be as powerful a message, but it is still a powerful message.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Jan 15, 2011 21:36:55 GMT -5
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jan 15, 2011 21:37:44 GMT -5
But if the message is the reason for having people read the book, and censoring it to get kids to read it dilutes the message, what's the point of having them read it in the first place? I know you said you opposed the censorship, I'm just saying that the purpose for reading Huck Finn is for its message, and in getting children to read it we're destroying part of that message, which defeats the purpose of having them read the book. Hope that made sense The book is not the word, though. Huck Finn without the word nigger may not be as powerful a message, but it is still a powerful message. The book is not the word but it certainly detracts from the total work and whitewashes history. At that point I'd say there's no point in reading it.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jan 15, 2011 23:11:19 GMT -5
But if the message is the reason for having people read the book, and censoring it to get kids to read it dilutes the message, what's the point of having them read it in the first place? I know you said you opposed the censorship, I'm just saying that the purpose for reading Huck Finn is for its message, and in getting children to read it we're destroying part of that message, which defeats the purpose of having them read the book. Hope that made sense The book is not the word, though. Huck Finn without the word nigger may not be as powerful a message, but it is still a powerful message. Huck Finn being censored is basically people saying 'what history? what? no no. we never used the word nigger.' It's like Germany sweeping the Holocaust under the rug and refusing to acknowledge the phrase 'juden hund' among others existed.
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Post by georgebullocks on Jan 16, 2011 3:59:01 GMT -5
This one is pretty amusing. But who are those two dudes behind palin supposed to be?
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Post by itachirumon on Jan 16, 2011 4:01:16 GMT -5
My guess is Rush and Beck
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Post by Rat Of Steel on Jan 16, 2011 4:13:20 GMT -5
My guess is Rush and Beck Seconded.
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Post by Amaranth on Jan 16, 2011 5:17:57 GMT -5
Two, are we willing to sacrifice that number of schools in exchange for setting precedent that you don't fucking mess with books? You know what? I'm going to risk Ironbite's wrath here and point out this is one of the most commonly banned books in the freaking country. I'm going to point out I don't agree with censorshio, but the message is still intact, even if it's less harsh. That being said, I'm not sure "nigger" is the only reason it's a commonly banned book. It'd be interesting to see how many places allow it after the fact. It's still an indictment of racism in the South, no matter how many "N" words they take out. But hey, either way, I think this is dumb, but I'm hardly losing sleep. If the end result is more kids read Huck Finn, I'm not going to piss myself. Especially since the original version is still widely circulated.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jan 17, 2011 16:24:47 GMT -5
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Post by Professor Cold Heart on Jan 17, 2011 16:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by dakotabob on Jan 17, 2011 16:35:43 GMT -5
Okay seriously, what the fuck is up with these pictures with Cameron in them? is that supposed to be even vaguely related to something in real life? what the fuck is that? *confusion*
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Post by itachirumon on Jan 17, 2011 18:16:39 GMT -5
....What is this I don't even.... Someone's gonna have to explain to me what I'm supposed to be seeing/getting out of this
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jan 17, 2011 18:26:49 GMT -5
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Post by Amaranth on Jan 17, 2011 18:27:31 GMT -5
....What is this I don't even.... Someone's gonna have to explain to me what I'm supposed to be seeing/getting out of this Likewise, that made no sense to me.
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