starbrewer
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Post by starbrewer on Apr 4, 2009 4:52:20 GMT -5
Ancient astronomy, really.
Does this prove that there is no God? I don't know.
Does this prove that there is a God? I don't know.
Does this prove anything about the Bible? I don't know.
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Post by starbrewer on Apr 4, 2009 21:45:05 GMT -5
Correction: it does prove that the Bible is full of shit. The Bible's authors are full of so much arrogant certainty of things that we cannot be sure about.
Also, I now know where the name 'Bad Astronomy' comes from!
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Post by Tiger on Apr 4, 2009 22:25:27 GMT -5
That's actually part one in a very good series. You can find all three parts here. |
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Post by Star Cluster on Apr 5, 2009 7:51:45 GMT -5
Of course, Christianity, as well as all other religious myths, is based on naturally occurring phenomenon to which the ancients ascribed supernatural meaning.
I have seen that series before, but the thing that occurs to me while watching it is that Christians would say something to the effect of "Yeah, but all those others were false gods while Jebus is real." I highly doubt that too many of them would be swayed by watching this video.
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Post by Little One-Eyed Wench on Apr 5, 2009 12:50:02 GMT -5
101 Myths of the Bible is a good book on this subject. The xtians get a little miffed when you tell them the bible is plagiarized. tinyurl.com/dj4xuf
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Post by Paradox on Apr 5, 2009 12:52:35 GMT -5
Those ancient guys were stealing each others religions all over the place.
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Post by Tiger on Apr 5, 2009 13:28:39 GMT -5
I have seen that series before, but the thing that occurs to me while watching it is that Christians would say something to the effect of "Yeah, but all those others were false gods while Jebus is real." I highly doubt that too many of them would be swayed by watching this video. Obviously. That's been their answer to everything relating to faiths other than theirs. It's addressed in the video, actually. An early Christian apologist, when asked why his invisible sky fairy was pretty much the same as everyone else's, responded that satan had created those other religions to make it look like Christ was merely plagiarized from them. (Satan's a sneaky bastard. It's almost like God has absolutely no power to keep him in check or something.) |
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Post by Star Cluster on Apr 5, 2009 14:21:12 GMT -5
I have seen that series before, but the thing that occurs to me while watching it is that Christians would say something to the effect of "Yeah, but all those others were false gods while Jebus is real." I highly doubt that too many of them would be swayed by watching this video. Obviously. That's been their answer to everything relating to faiths other than theirs. It's addressed in the video, actually. An early Christian apologist, when asked why his invisible sky fairy was pretty much the same as everyone else's, responded that satan had created those other religions to make it look like Christ was merely plagiarized from them. (Satan's a sneaky bastard. It's almost like God has absolutely no power to keep him in check or something.) Yeah, I was thinking about them saying Satan creating those other religions just too fool the world, too. And yeah, looks like in a battle of wits, Satan beats God every time. |
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Post by schizophonic on Apr 5, 2009 14:37:51 GMT -5
101 Myths of the Bible is a good book on this subject. The xtians get a little miffed when you tell them the bible is plagiarized. tinyurl.com/dj4xuf Unless you come across one of those guys who says "just because it's stole doesn't mean it's not still true." |
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Post by id82 on Apr 5, 2009 18:56:22 GMT -5
Isn't that a segment from the movie Zeitgeist? While I agree with some of what he says regarding religion that movie is just pure conspiracy theory bullshit.
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Post by starbrewer on Apr 6, 2009 10:36:51 GMT -5
Let's talk about some things that are not found in the Bible. The Bible does not support them, but also at the same time nothing in the Bible refutes them.
Vypernight brought up the belief that Jesus died for all of humanity for all of time.
I would like to throw out the idea of Jesus as personal lord and savior.
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Post by Lady Renae on Apr 6, 2009 14:15:18 GMT -5
I would like to throw out the entire myth of the fall of Lucifer and the angels who followed him.
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Post by peanutfan on Apr 6, 2009 14:41:13 GMT -5
I'd like to toss out the doctrine of actually having to believe any of the crap in the Bible. Even by their own text, Jesus said, "None come to the Father except through me"...which, to me, sounds like he just has to put in a good word for you, not that you have to believe in every dot and dash in the Bible to qualify.
He also said, "What you do unto the least of these, you do unto me", referring to the poor, the lepers, the beggars, the prostitutes, etc...basically all of society's outcasts. Of course, the fundies I went to school with in KY didn't take that as a valid argument for why they should try being decent people to me, or at the least, leave me the hell alone.
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Post by Vypernight on Apr 6, 2009 15:58:40 GMT -5
101 Myths of the Bible is a good book on this subject. The xtians get a little miffed when you tell them the bible is plagiarized. tinyurl.com/dj4xuf I have that book. Great read! My thought on Jesus was (hypothetically, if he existed); how would Christians act if they found out he only died for the sins of those existing at that moment? All others following that event are on their own. Of course that'd only work if they knew beyond the shadow of all doubt that it was true. |
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Post by Paradox on Apr 6, 2009 23:03:54 GMT -5
I'd like to toss out the doctrine of actually having to believe any of the crap in the Bible. Even by their own text, Jesus said, "None come to the Father except through me"...which, to me, sounds like he just has to put in a good word for you, not that you have to believe in every dot and dash in the Bible to qualify. He also said, "What you do unto the least of these, you do unto me", referring to the poor, the lepers, the beggars, the prostitutes, etc...basically all of society's outcasts. Of course, the fundies I went to school with in KY didn't take that as a valid argument for why they should try being decent people to me, or at the least, leave me the hell alone. Every verse I've been able to find wherein Jesus talks about heaven and hell seems to indicate that you get there based on how you treat those around you and what you do to help them. |
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