Well, being omnipotent and omniscient, God surely not only knew my reasoning for my conclusion (probably better than me for that matter) but also fully intended for things to happen the way they did, so what could I possibly say or do that'd make any differance? In fact, what would be the point of me saying anything to God in the first place? Like I said, he already knows everything there is to know about me and can and will do as he pleases, so why go though the charade of trying to justify my thoughts and actions to the very being that's so supposedly displeased with the way HE made things?
So yeah, I'd essentially ask that sort of question. Not that'd I'd likely get an answer, but it's more productive than grovelling in any case.
Something like this. Then ask him to say "hi" to my deceased family members for me as I am sent off to hell.
"You can't even say 'Merry Christmas' anymore, you gotta say 'Hey Baby Jesus, you wanna do Pilates?'"
If you see me typing in "quotes", that's because I'm remembering what it was like to be a fundie and then typing as if I was one :3 "Please. Understand that I only want to share God's love with you. I mean you no harm, really. You need to stop sinning."
Fuck you, your son, and your followers. If you're the best thing to have ever existed, then the standards by which this is so are appalling. There is nothing you can say or do that will ever make you worth the praise you demand of your creations.
The Bible suggests that Elohim is more than one entity. If you think about it, the only reason for God to be jealous of other gods is if those other gods were equal or greater to him. The God depicted in the rest of the Bible was just Yahweh, who is jealous, wrathful, ignorant, childish, and petty. If we assume that Jesus Christ is God via the Trinity, that would make God selfish and hypocritical. So I would say "Yo Yahweh, where's your manager? I've got a complaint." (We're rejecting the idea that God is omnipotent, which is evident by the Bible inspite of Christian doctrine.)
Incidentally, if you consider phrase "In the beginning there was the word, and the word was God", then God is very Brahman like in quality. OMG, Christianity proves Hinduism!
"You really do exist? Why didn't you show me any proof while I was alive? Didn't you want me to believe in you?"
I do my best to be a good person, the best way I know how. If god is good and just, he'll reward me, and everyone else who tried hard to be a good person. If he doesn't, then he's not good and just and not worth worshiping anyway.
Now, I have two questions for you. These are direct questions.
1) Let's say it's sometime in the future and we're all standing before the God of the Koran for judgment. For you who died as a non-Muslim, Allah gives you a chance to speak on your own behalf. What do you imagine you'd say to Him?
2) Let's say that as you are dying, you are somehow able to see beyond this mortal coil and what you see is... nothing. You see that there is no god, no afterlife, no judgment. Would you have any regrets?
Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Oct 3, 2010 23:50:01 GMT -5
"Let me answer your question with a few questions of my own. Why, exactly, would you create us with a conscience that contradicts your form of 'divine' justice? Why do you hold us to such high standards when we're so enormously flawed by our very nature? And speaking of one's nature, why would you allow me and so many others to be born with one that leads us to be literally unable to believe in something -- i.e., you -- without evidence? Why did you suddenly stop revealing yourself to people after the bible was written? Why only perform miracles in modern times that science could explain? Why couldn't you just make it so that no one could deny your existence, instead of filling the world around us with red herrings?
Why didn't you heal amputees? Why let people have homosexual impulses if it's so evil? Why did you create sociopaths, who have no conscience? Why allow birth defects? Why create us with such a strong sex drive if sex is so evil? If you want us to wait until marriage, why not only have our sex drive kick in when we wed? And the same goes for teen pregnancy: Why not only have us be capable of reproduction after marriage? Why do you create people with male bodies and a female mind, or vice versa (i.e., trans gendered people)? Or any of the other gender variants, outside of cisgendered? Why allow depression, schizophrenia, eating disorders, bipolar disorder, etc. to flourish? Why would you let good people suffer and bad people prosper?
Why would you let Satan tempt your 'children' so frequently, while you do little to push us in the "right" direction? Why let someone so evil exercise that much control over imperfect, weak, stupid humans? Free will can still exist without having someone tempting us to do bad things and damning most of us to hell. For that matter, why damn us at all? What purpose does that serve? How is eternal punishment appropriate for finite crimes? And why can't you just forgive us if you want to go to heaven, erasing all those sinful, evil impulses when we die? Why can't you just cause the non-Christians to pop out of existence at death instead of torturing them? Back to Satan, why do you have to have this elaborate plan when you could just snap your fingers and make him disappear at any given moment? I mean, you're allowing people to continue to be born into a world where most of them will end up being swayed by the devil, thus going to hell. How can you do that to a creation you supposedly love?
Why did you need to sacrifice yourself to yourself in order to convince yourself to forgive people who YOU created, all the while knowing exactly what their future held (being omnipotent and all)? Why create humanity just to damn most of us to hell? Why the hell would you stick a magical tree bearing knowledge of good and evil, which would lead to sin if its fruit was eaten, right in the middle of the Garden of Eden? What is that all about? Since you know the future, you obviously knew that was a bad idea. If you didn't want them to gain knowledge, don't make it so easy to get it. At least erect a really tall fence around the tree or something. Furthermore, if Adam and Eve had no knowledge of right and wrong, how can they be blamed for disobedience? It doesn't make any sense to 'test' people who literally don't know the difference between good and evil. The old "ignorance of the law isn't an excuse" principle doesn't work when the makers of said laws -- in this case, you -- intentionally make sure that the people are unaware of them. If anything, this was a case of entrapment.
How on earth can our thoughts be a crime when we often don't have total control over them? We don't choose to be angry, yet you say that anger is the same as murder. We don't choose to be horny, yet you call that adultery. Jealousy is a natural emotion that not only is innate to our nature, but also acts as a motivator for people to succeed, making it integral to our society. And yet... jealousy is a sin? When I'm tempted to do something bad, I definitely don't choose to have that temptation. So, why punish me for someone I have no control over? Emotion is ever more difficult to control, yet you punish us for that as well. Even the imperfect human justice system won't charge someone if they literally had no control over their actions.
How is it fair to leave us with nothing more than "It's all part of God's plan" or "God works in mysterious ways" in answer to the aforementioned questions?
Why did you claim that bats are birds, rabbits chew cud, insects have six legs and that pi = 3?
More than anything else: Why did you allow Satan to create thousands upon thousands of paths to hell via false religions, but then only create one religious pathway to heaven?
Why do you even need me to explain myself to you? You're omnipotent. You should know this already. Do you find it amusing to see people desperately begging for you to forgive them? I'm not going to beg you for anything. I can only hope that you'll give me a good explanation for all of this before you throw me into hell."