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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 11, 2009 16:38:55 GMT -5
You've probably heard Christian fanatics talking about how atheists and liberals "kicked God out of school" (yeah, some omnipotent deity--apparently He's so weak that a bunch of laws and court decisions are able to prevent him from being physically present in public schools...). Well, the American Family Association has created a hilarious new video entitled "The Day They Kicked God Out of Schools." I have the first three minutes or so, and I wish I had a laugh track on it:
Yes, apparently school shootings are caused by: banning mandatory prayer in public school, banning corporal punishment in school, discouraging corporal punishment in the home, banning the mandatory teaching of the Bible in school, legalizing abortion and contraceptives, Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky, Hollywood, and rock music. They also make the moronic mistake of thinking child porn was upheld as constitutional (on what planet are these people living on?!). I'm sure if you buy the DVD (fat chance) and watch the entire thing, they'll drag evolution in there somehow as well....
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Post by wackadoodle on Apr 11, 2009 16:55:00 GMT -5
I fast forwarded to a random part and saw a sniper reticule over the 50 states. This is what people resort to with no rational arguments to use.
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Post by nuitarihw on Apr 11, 2009 16:57:10 GMT -5
My favorite part is how they ask a question and then say, "Reply, ....Sincerely God." How much more arrogant or egotistical can you get then to actually literally claim you are speaking for god?
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Post by m52nickerson on Apr 11, 2009 17:09:28 GMT -5
So what I got from that is that this groups says ok to anything and the God can be stopped by school rules.
Make senses.
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Post by SimSim on Apr 11, 2009 17:26:07 GMT -5
Maybe the shootings happened because the students were disturbed and people missed the warning signs? Nah, can't be that, god is pissed so he lets a bunch of innocent people get killed as punishment for taking "god out of schools." That moment of silence where we had stand after the Pledge at my public high school clearly wasn't for students to pray, it must have been to make sure we didn't fall asleep early in the morning.
What, schools aren't allowed to discipline students anymore? I remember there being detention and suspensions for students who were disruptive or fought. But clearly the only type of discipline is physical punishment. Because kids only behave if they are hit.
I went to school before the abstinence only sex education, and amazingly we weren't taught that we should be having sex. They taught us that we shouldn't have it, but if we did, how to safely. There were no free condoms given out.
Clearly what goes on inside someone's home is everybody's business. Nobody has a right to privacy, even the president. Oh no, Bill Clinton got a blowjob from someone who wasn't his wife. That's a travesty, our elected officals should never cheat on their spouses. Let's just ignore that at the same time Newt Gingrich was cheating on his second wife. That's totally acceptable because he is a god fearing Conservative.
Child pornography existed before the internet, it's not like it just magically poofed in to existence with widespread use of the internet. Nor is child pornography covered under the First Amendment. Nice "won't you think of the children" straw man though.
Kids shouldn't listen to music, watch tv or movies due to all the sex and violence, they should read the bible more. All that sex and violence in the bible is totally acceptable though. It won't affect the children any, god will cast his magical spell of protection on them, so that they can understand that it was god's will. And sex and violence is totally acceptable if it is god's will.
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Post by Sayna on Apr 11, 2009 18:09:02 GMT -5
When I was in middle school, I was bullied almost constantly. Sometimes I was just in utter despair and dreaded going to school. I don't know why, I was weird and annoying and the other kids had been part of a tightly-knit group before while I had gone to a different elementary school. I was also pretty opinionated and not afraid to speak my mind.
One of my teachers had a book in his class about bullying called "The Wounded Spirit". I asked to read it, and for a while I really liked it. It said a lot about bullying and how cruel kids sometimes are to each other, and I felt like somebody cared and understood.
Then I got to the part about why school shootings happen. Because we don't have the ten commandments posted in schools. Because the Columbine shooters were atheists. Because American schools are secular. ...Excuse me?! I was being bullied for a lot of things, but part of it was because I didn't believe in God!
Was it because kids are cruel to the point of driving kids insane? Was it because kids weren't getting treatment when they were mentally ill? Or because of an increasingly violent culture and access to guns? No, it was because kids like me dared to not believe in this asshole's religion!
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 11, 2009 18:15:17 GMT -5
When I was in middle school, I was bullied almost constantly. Sometimes I was just in utter despair and dreaded going to school. I don't know why, I was weird and annoying and the other kids had been part of a tightly-knit group before while I had gone to a different elementary school. I was also pretty opinionated and not afraid to speak my mind. One of my teachers had a book in his class about bullying called "The Wounded Spirit". I asked to read it, and for a while I really liked it. It said a lot about bullying and how cruel kids sometimes are to each other, and I felt like somebody cared and understood. Then I got to the part about why school shootings happen. Because we don't have the ten commandments posted in schools. Because the Columbine shooters were atheists. Because American schools are secular. ...Excuse me?! I was being bullied for a lot of things, but part of it was because I didn't believe in God! Was it because kids are cruel to the point of driving kids insane? Was it because kids weren't getting treatment when they were mentally ill? Or because of an increasingly violent culture and access to guns? No, it was because kids like me dared to not believe in this asshole's religion! If there's anything the Christian right is skilled at, it's exploiting a tragedy: "Guns have little or nothing to do with juvenile violence. The causes of youth violence are working parents who put their kids into daycare, the teaching of evolution in the schools, and working mothers who take birth control pills." -Tom DeLay DeLay made this statement in the aftermath of the Columbine massacre. If you ask me, DeLay's previous career as a roach exterminator constitutes fratricide....
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Post by Star Cluster on Apr 11, 2009 18:51:27 GMT -5
Damn, that's a heaping pile of fail in just 3½ minutes.
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Post by dasfuchs on Apr 11, 2009 18:56:23 GMT -5
na, shootings took place because murdering kids is an omnipotent, all knowing god's way of exacting justice for removing his bias from school. Fear or die basically
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Post by antichrist on Apr 11, 2009 21:53:05 GMT -5
So Billy the Kid? That was because they took God out of school?
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 11, 2009 21:55:08 GMT -5
So Billy the Kid? That was because they took God out of school? By their logic...yes.
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Post by ironbite on Apr 11, 2009 23:36:38 GMT -5
..........you know who discouraged corpereal punishment(IE spankings) at home? CHRISTIANS LIKE THESE!
Ironbite-god what idiots.
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Post by dasfuchs on Apr 12, 2009 8:58:24 GMT -5
If there was anything that kept us kids in line it was one sentence our grandmother would use every time we got rowdy "Don't make me tall your father when he gets home" Instant angels. The old man had a bad hit, but tucked away in the hall laundry closet was his favorite discipline tool, a two foot long piece of half inch plywood with a padded grip, rough on one side, smooth on the other with holes drilled through it in a crosshair pattern.
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Post by doomie 22 on Apr 12, 2009 13:06:26 GMT -5
You know who's to blame for school shootings? People who saw bullying going on is schools and said "it's just a part of growing up." Parents who couldn't give two shits if their kid even came home today or not. Teachers who knew something was wrong but didn't say anything because they might lose their jobs.
Attention idiots of the religious right. Stop using tragedies to forward your own agenda. I know lying for Jesus isn't a sin for you guys but it still makes you look like assholes.
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Post by Paradox on Apr 12, 2009 23:55:54 GMT -5
For all the talk about God being kicked out of schools, I've never seen it. Hell, we had a prayer group at my public high school, and we were never bothered. The right has done a great job of convincing people that prayer is actually banned in public schools in all of its forms. I've had people argue with me that students should have the right to pray in school if they want to. It is endlessly frustrating to have to explain to them that this is a right they actually have.
Lying for Jesus is wrong.
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