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Post by Art Vandelay on May 15, 2011 21:18:45 GMT -5
Fine then. Skyscraper + A week's supply of food, water and a generator + blocked stairwell + letting decomposition run its course = victory for the living. How the hell are you gonna fit 6.6 billion people into a skyscraper? Not to mention all it takes is a single shitty wire to start a fire... You know there are more than one in existence, right? More than enough for a good enough sized chunk of the human population to survive. Not to mention, with the main power shut off, shitty wiring shouldn't be a problem and even if it was, we only need a week or so before the zombies fall apart enough to not be a threat any more.
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Post by nomad on May 15, 2011 21:34:07 GMT -5
How the hell are you gonna fit 6.6 billion people into a skyscraper? Not to mention all it takes is a single shitty wire to start a fire... You know there are more than one in existence, right? More than enough for a good enough sized chunk of the human population to survive. Not to mention, with the main power shut off, shitty wiring shouldn't be a problem and even if it was, we only need a week or so before the zombies fall apart enough to not be a threat any more. On the decomposition, it depends on what kind of virus is animating the zombies. If it's a type of virus as described in the Complete Zombie Survival Guide, decomposition would be significantly slowed since no natural decomposers would touch the infected body. On the skyscraper issue, you'd need to get all the equipment and enough food for X people inside, barricade it, and hope no zombies saw you or they'd simply keep coming until they all rotted away. If you do survive to the end of the theoretical week, you'd have to make sure that you avoided contact with all infected body fluids and cleaned them all off the streets or what have you, and that no scavengers or carnivores ate them, otherwise you're looking at more hellhounds, etc.
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Post by Art Vandelay on May 15, 2011 21:37:53 GMT -5
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Post by nomad on May 15, 2011 21:58:32 GMT -5
1. Imagine zombie animals. Shit just got real. 2. If the zombie explodes on you? Zombification. If the virus provides its own immune system, then no need to worry. 3. One of the reasons that tundra is the best zombie-hunting terrain. 4. The aforementioned insect and mammalian predators are great at biting people. With insects, sometimes you don't even see them. They know what spreads malaria, and yet it still hasn't stopped malaria from spreading. 5. Fair enough. Avoid contact with all open wounds and this might work. 6. Also a fair point. If they do see you, though, they will disintegrate their dead muscles attempting to pound through your barricade. If they succeed, their inability to feel pain (or fear) means that they'll just keep coming. Hope you brought a shotgun along with all those rounds of sniper ammo. 7. Ranged weapons --> good. Just make sure you've got ammo, cleaned it, and can hit them in the face. Melee --> not so good. Don't get any blood splatter on you, don't wear yourself out, don't let them touch you. Fire --> hope your not standing near or quartered in anything flammable Air bombing --> great. Just make sure to evacuate the civilians and be prepared to rebuild the whole damn city from rubble.
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Post by nomad on May 15, 2011 22:01:02 GMT -5
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on May 15, 2011 22:32:50 GMT -5
1. Imagine zombie animals. Shit just got real.
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Post by Art Vandelay on May 15, 2011 22:45:28 GMT -5
1. Viruses very rarely cross between species. Zombie animals would require exactly the right mutation of the zombie virus for every additional species you want infected. In fact, viruses need living cells to reproduce and thus propagate. Come to think of it, unless the first generation of viruses of a host is able to find a victim before the end of their extremely short lives, goodbye zombie apocalypse. 2. If a zombie is on the verge of explosion, it's muscles would be rendered immobile from the pressure, meaning if you get caught in the blast radius when it does go boom, you're quite simply an idiot and deserve to get zombified. 3. Indeed. 4. See 1. 5. Indeed. 6. For reasons mentioned in point #1, I would only need to hold out for an absurdly short period of time. 7. Armoured vehicles. Simply keep the fuel depots zombie free and the air filters well maintained and the occupants can squash zombies to their heart's content. Precision bombing. Able to accurately hit a single person from the air. Helicopter gunships. Quite simply, those zombies don't stand a chance.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on May 15, 2011 23:25:44 GMT -5
Psh. Aircraft carrier. So long as you have consumables you can be out at sea and not worry.
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Post by nomad on May 17, 2011 17:40:07 GMT -5
So after the government splatters the zombies to bits, what about cleanup? Does the virus die without any more body to feed it?
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Post by Art Vandelay on May 17, 2011 21:34:39 GMT -5
Yep. That's generally how viruses work.
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Post by nomad on May 18, 2011 8:52:52 GMT -5
What would be a real-life exception to this?
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Post by stormwarden on May 19, 2011 22:02:42 GMT -5
What about a fungus like the sort in the rain forests turning ants into zombies?
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Post by Art Vandelay on May 19, 2011 22:05:38 GMT -5
What about a fungus like the sort in the rain forests turning ants into zombies? In that case, the zombies wouldn't be trying to eat people's brains, but rather trying to reach the highest point they possibly can before exploding in order to spread spores.
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Post by sylvana on May 20, 2011 7:19:20 GMT -5
What about a fungus like the sort in the rain forests turning ants into zombies? In that case, the zombies wouldn't be trying to eat people's brains, but rather trying to reach the highest point they possibly can before exploding in order to spread spores. You are aware that is still a really bad thing right? Hell exploding fungus zombie spores are far worse than any normal zombie virus as the means of infection just became airborne. With regards to the natural predators thing also, if this infection can somehow animate dead tissue, it would make sense that cross species transmission would not be an issue really. If we dont assume virus but more a parasitic micro insect species it would work better. Zombie viruses however are completely impossible, despite the fact that they require living tissue and are species specific, all viruses essentially turn their hosts into viral goo destroying any infected cells as they replicate. Without the natural healing ability of living organisms the virus will probably destroy the zombie itself before it decomposes.
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Post by Art Vandelay on May 20, 2011 8:26:59 GMT -5
You are aware that is still a really bad thing right? Hell exploding fungus zombie spores are far worse than any normal zombie virus as the means of infection just became airborne. Of course it's a bad thing, just my point is that survival tactics would be less about fending off the zombie hordes and more making sure you have a hazmat suit and a good stockpile of air filters.
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