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Post by Admiral Lithp on Dec 19, 2010 2:52:10 GMT -5
AA, you should adhere to the burden of proof no matter what "court" you're in or what you're talking about. The reason many legal systems use it is because it goddamn makes sense. Take the above post, for instance. It's a great speech & all, but it's not super persuasive to me because it doesn't actually show any evidence of you being a 'tard. And what the Hell is an oathkeeper? I keep thinking of Kingdom Hearts. Oath Keepers are law enforcement officers of unparalleled courage and honor who pledge to refuse any unconstitutional orders to unnecessarily restrict freedom of the people. So they're magical fairy princesses?
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Post by dasfuchs on Dec 19, 2010 2:57:32 GMT -5
Oath Keepers are law enforcement officers of unparalleled courage and honor who pledge to refuse any unconstitutional orders to unnecessarily restrict freedom of the people. So they're magical fairy princesses? Pretty much.
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Post by ironbite on Dec 19, 2010 3:11:06 GMT -5
Can they summon a giant moth?
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Post by Iczer-Four on Dec 19, 2010 3:28:41 GMT -5
like Mothra?
@aa I have heard story's of crooked cops but i have also heard about Cops that have helped people greatly.. you Should not group all cops as crooked.. not all cops are evil only a few.
Gods my grammar sucks today..
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Post by Oriet on Dec 19, 2010 3:32:50 GMT -5
And once again AA turns up only stir up shit. In fact, his posts seemed deliberately designed to stir shit up, and, unlike Skyfire, he doesn't have many posts that are half reasonable to hide the shit stirring in. I can only conclude then that AA is a troll. I'd say well played, AA, except you're being too obvious and only occasionally border on funny (one of these being "church of liberalism").
As for the the OP, yes, I'd like to hear the other side, just as I like to hear the other side about any story, as you'll either find it's completely bogus or find those responsible are even larger douchebags than initially thought.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Dec 19, 2010 3:44:49 GMT -5
Can they summon a giant moth?
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Post by impatiens on Dec 19, 2010 4:01:46 GMT -5
AA, you should adhere to the burden of proof no matter what "court" you're in or what you're talking about. The reason many legal systems use it is because it goddamn makes sense. Take the above post, for instance. It's a great speech & all, but it's not super persuasive to me because it doesn't actually show any evidence of you being a 'tard. And what the Hell is an oathkeeper? I keep thinking of Kingdom Hearts. Oath Keepers are law enforcement officers of unparalleled courage and honor who pledge to refuse any unconstitutional orders to unnecessarily restrict freedom of the people. Oh, you mean this?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Dec 19, 2010 4:03:24 GMT -5
Iczer, not that I want to burst your bubble (I do), but AA has been told this many times. He frequently lashes out at the first sign of the government or police being dickish, blows it way out of proportion without thinking it through while going "See, SEE?! I was right all along!" is either shown that there was more to the story he conveniently missed or that he's poisoning the well, darts away for a (short) while, & continues making topics like this, presumably in the hope that someone will see his view &, if not, he can at least rationalize it that they're sheep.
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Post by ironbite on Dec 19, 2010 4:03:42 GMT -5
At least a few people caught my Mothra joke.
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Post by impatiens on Dec 19, 2010 4:07:31 GMT -5
Iczer, not that I want to burst your bubble (I do), but AA has been told this many times. He frequently lashes out at the first sign of the government or police being dickish, blows it way out of proportion without thinking it through while going "See, SEE?! I was right all along!" is either shown that there was more to the story he conveniently missed or that he's poisoning the well, darts away for a (short) while, & continues making topics like this, presumably in the hope that someone will see his view &, if not, he can at least rationalize it that they're sheep. But AA secretly fantasizes about being a cop's bottom. Like this cop, for instance:
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Post by ltfred on Dec 19, 2010 6:34:12 GMT -5
Liberals are saying that stuff is alright? Not any liberals I know. Most liberals I know (including myself) are at least a little disappointed with Obama, if not a lot. You either have no idea what liberals even think and say or you're being deliberately ignorant. You're just attacking straw men, and as long as you do, you're not going to have the least bit of credibility. To be fair, quite a few Kossers have seen a rapid shift in their view of certain aspects of the US national security state. I think these people's view of the various wars remains unchanged- Iraq bad, Afghanistan good. What he got wrong was to paint the rest of liberalism with the same brush.
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Post by scotsgit on Dec 19, 2010 7:31:31 GMT -5
Nice to see I'm not the only one who thought the little shits got what was coming to them. Dear protesters. Congratulations you have managed to convince me (a student) to support these rises on the principle that you've got it fucking coming. So you think that if someone's middle cl ass then they don't deserve to go to college? and that those protesting this plutocratic bullshit are the bad guys? Neither of us said that, please don't try and put words in my mouth. I've also said I support the protests, not the methods being used. They might be, they might not be. I can't actually tell what the CPS will do because I don't work for them and don't presume to know. However, this media bias: That would be the same media that brought to public attention the unsafe convictions of pretty much everyone convicted by West Midlands Serious Crimes Squad, the same media that showed the pictures of an unprovoked assault by the Met on a city worker during the G20 summit? That the same media? And yes, I do want to hear both sides of the story: Going with just what one person said is called gossip, not fact.
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Post by scotsgit on Dec 19, 2010 7:35:07 GMT -5
I'd like to hear both sides on that as well. I don't think the cops were just going to club him and drag him for just sitting there. I'd have to assume he was instigating something through words and antagonizing the cops. they overstepped their bounds, sure, but over nothing but a guy only sitting in a wheel chair...I doubt it And that rape victim was TOTALLY asking for it by wearing such a short skirt and walking along. This is blaming the victim mentality worthy of love shy. Also to all jackasses saying you want to hear both sides of BEATING UP A DISABLED PERSON. I am curious if you are also "interested" in John Wayne Gacy or BTK's "side of the story." Why do you only defend sociopathic monsters when they are cops. At least be consistent about it. Geez, just replace "God" with "State" and this place would be identical to Rapture Ready. Possibly your stupidest post yet. And that's against some serious competition.
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Post by scotsgit on Dec 19, 2010 7:51:51 GMT -5
AA, you should adhere to the burden of proof no matter what "court" you're in or what you're talking about. The reason many legal systems use it is because it goddamn makes sense. Take the above post, for instance. It's a great speech & all, but it's not super persuasive to me because it doesn't actually show any evidence of you being a 'tard. And what the Hell is an oathkeeper? I keep thinking of Kingdom Hearts. Oath Keepers are law enforcement officers of unparalleled courage and honor who pledge to refuse any unconstitutional orders to unnecessarily restrict freedom of the people. So what you're saying is that, if a Police Officer breaks the law, then that makes them a good person?
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Post by aboveathletics on Dec 19, 2010 12:05:43 GMT -5
Oath Keepers are law enforcement officers of unparalleled courage and honor who pledge to refuse any unconstitutional orders to unnecessarily restrict freedom of the people. So what you're saying is that, if a Police Officer breaks the law, then that makes them a good person? When you follow orders to do good, you're doing heroic stuff, but really just doing your job. If you follow orders to do evil, you're an asshole. If you inflict a greater amount of evil than the orders specify, you're a monster. However, if you disobey orders to do evil then you are a true hero in every sense of the word. In Nazi Germany there were some stories of officers who risked their lives by refusing orders to do things like set fire to schools or hospitals. That's the kind of cop I see as a truly good person, and that's the type of character personified by the Oath keepers.
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