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Post by RavynousHunter on Oct 26, 2011 19:17:15 GMT -5
Yeah, at least Jesus had some class. These wankers don't know how its done.
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Post by Yla on Oct 27, 2011 5:56:43 GMT -5
It says 'wine lover'. Drinking wine != loving wine.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Oct 27, 2011 7:12:54 GMT -5
It says 'wine lover'. Drinking wine != loving wine. Hey, you know who loved wine so much he found new and more impressive ways to get more? Jesus. |
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Post by Kit Walker on Oct 27, 2011 8:11:07 GMT -5
It says 'wine lover'. Drinking wine != loving wine. Jesus also lived (assuming he did, 'natch) in a time where clean drinking water wasn't super readily available. I think, but am by no means well versed enough in history to be sure, that drinking wine wouldn't have been so much "love" as it was "necessity". |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 27, 2011 8:15:48 GMT -5
It says 'wine lover'. Drinking wine != loving wine. Jesus also lived (assuming he did, 'natch) in a time where clean drinking water wasn't super readily available. I think, but am by no means well versed enough in history to be sure, that drinking wine wouldn't have been so much "love" as it was "necessity". That is supposed to be the case. Same reason mildly alcoholic drinks were standard fare throughout the ancient world, with all meals. |
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Post by priestling on Oct 27, 2011 12:33:17 GMT -5
I keep hearing from religious types that 'wine' is supposedly a "Bad translation" and it's meant to be a more general term closer to "grape juice".
They don't understand why I call bullshit.
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Post by worlder on Oct 27, 2011 12:34:46 GMT -5
Jesus also lived (assuming he did, 'natch) in a time where clean drinking water wasn't super readily available. I think, but am by no means well versed enough in history to be sure, that drinking wine wouldn't have been so much "love" as it was "necessity". That is supposed to be the case. Same reason mildly alcoholic drinks were standard fare throughout the ancient world, with all meals. Ah so Jesus was providing clean drinks at the last supper. |
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Post by Yla on Oct 27, 2011 13:31:55 GMT -5
That is supposed to be the case. Same reason mildly alcoholic drinks were standard fare throughout the ancient world, with all meals. Ah so Jesus was providing clean drinks at the last supper. Canaanite Wedding |
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 27, 2011 14:31:36 GMT -5
I keep hearing from religious types that 'wine' is supposedly a "Bad translation" and it's meant to be a more general term closer to "grape juice". They don't understand why I call bullshit. It is TOTAL bullshit. (and these "bad translation" people are often the same ones who demand you accept everything else in the Bible as inerrant, God given fact, amiright?) |
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Post by priestling on Oct 27, 2011 15:20:15 GMT -5
I keep hearing from religious types that 'wine' is supposedly a "Bad translation" and it's meant to be a more general term closer to "grape juice". They don't understand why I call bullshit. It is TOTAL bullshit. (and these "bad translation" people are often the same ones who demand you accept everything else in the Bible as inerrant, God given fact, amiright?) Eeeyup. The sad thing was, one of them was a youth pastor buddy of mine, and my GM for our pencil and paper gaming. Good guy otherwise, but try to talk to him about a logical fallacy in the bible... (the 'free will doesn't exist if god is omniscient' debate also came up between us) and he'd shut his ears. |
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Post by the sandman on Oct 27, 2011 16:19:10 GMT -5
I keep hearing from religious types that 'wine' is supposedly a "Bad translation" and it's meant to be a more general term closer to "grape juice". They don't understand why I call bullshit. What they mean is that the wine that people drank back then was quite weak, frequently mixed with water in a 50/50 ratio. The water made the wine last a lot longer and the wine made the water safe to drink. But it was still wine, and it was still alcohol. |
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Post by itachirumon on Oct 27, 2011 17:46:32 GMT -5
I keep hearing from religious types that 'wine' is supposedly a "Bad translation" and it's meant to be a more general term closer to "grape juice". They don't understand why I call bullshit. What they mean is that the wine that people drank back then was quite weak, frequently mixed with water in a 50/50 ratio. The water made the wine last a lot longer and the wine made the water safe to drink. But it was still wine, and it was still alcohol. This much can be cross-verified in Greek literature...sorta. In Homer, some of the wines were of such significant strength, the ratio would be closer to 1:100 (well...supposedly). It caused me to goto Bevmo one night and ask if they HAD any wine from Greece, strong enough that it'd require dilution. |
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Post by SCarpelan on Oct 27, 2011 18:03:35 GMT -5
What they mean is that the wine that people drank back then was quite weak, frequently mixed with water in a 50/50 ratio. The water made the wine last a lot longer and the wine made the water safe to drink. But it was still wine, and it was still alcohol. This much can be cross-verified in Greek literature...sorta. In Homer, some of the wines were of such significant strength, the ratio would be closer to 1:100 (well...supposedly). It caused me to goto Bevmo one night and ask if they HAD any wine from Greece, strong enough that it'd require dilution. I don't think you can get higher than around 16-17% alcohol content with the fermenting process alone. So, unless the ancient Greeks had discovered the distillation technology that's quite an exaggeration. |
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Post by gyeonghwa on Nov 18, 2011 17:42:20 GMT -5
People were posting this on my FB as sorta protest sign:  |
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Post by Kit Walker on Nov 18, 2011 17:53:03 GMT -5
If our society could figure whether it wanted to be submissive housewives, strong independent "bitches", or carefree "sluts" then maybe...something something. I don't know. I don't have something snappy.
Men are socialized to be dicks!
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