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Post by Smurfette Principle on Jun 13, 2011 8:02:52 GMT -5
Are you deliberately being thick, or are you just ignoring the post I made?
OK, here's a question for you: for what purpose are the laws I posted designed, if not to prevent exactly this sort of thing from happening? Because, if you were to spend the two minutes I spend Googling, you would know that they are to protect private citizens from other private citizens, not private citizens from medical professionals.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jun 13, 2011 8:17:02 GMT -5
Excuse me, did you read a single word of what I wrote? It doesn't matter if it's his child. He's still committing libel. And even if it wasn't libel, it's still an invasion of privacy, due to the relevant laws I just posted.I already agreed its libel. But if you don't have an expectation of medical inconfidence, then you can't get upset when someone you tell personal medical information tells it to someone else. Especially if the information effects you directly. Of course it matters that its his child. ![](http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldst74H4ci1qe5i9to1_500.jpg) ![](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld4xvjQYKc1qccbu9o1_500.gif) Anyone else want to take this?
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Post by lighthorseman on Jun 13, 2011 8:41:05 GMT -5
Are you deliberately being thick, or are you just ignoring the post I made? OK, here's a question for you: for what purpose are the laws I posted designed, if not to prevent exactly this sort of thing from happening? Because, if you were to spend the two minutes I spend Googling, you would know that they are to protect private citizens from other private citizens, not private citizens from medical professionals. Medical confidentiality, which our friend was talking about, is indeed to protect private citizens from medical professionals. I responded to your post earlier. What part do you think I have not adequately addressed?
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Post by lighthorseman on Jun 13, 2011 8:41:49 GMT -5
I already agreed its libel. But if you don't have an expectation of medical inconfidence, then you can't get upset when someone you tell personal medical information tells it to someone else. Especially if the information effects you directly. Of course it matters that its his child. ![](http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldst74H4ci1qe5i9to1_500.jpg) ![](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld4xvjQYKc1qccbu9o1_500.gif) Anyone else want to take this? Sooo... you DON'T think the guy has a right to discuss his part in a pregnancy???
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jun 13, 2011 8:47:32 GMT -5
I don't think he has a right to then say 'oh and then my ex-girlfriend had an abortion'. Maybe a couple of close friends could be told (in fact I can't imagine not confiding in a couple of close friends) but not make it totally public knowledge.
His rights end where hers begin. He has NO RIGHT without HER PERMISSION to tell people she had an abortion.
I know maybe it works differently for LHM Nurses Incorporated. But for real people? With real compassion? It doesn't work that way.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Jun 13, 2011 8:52:20 GMT -5
![](http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldst74H4ci1qe5i9to1_500.jpg) ![](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld4xvjQYKc1qccbu9o1_500.gif) Anyone else want to take this? Sooo... you DON'T think the guy has a right to discuss his part in a pregnancy??? He is publicly announcing private information, which is a violation of her right to privacy. He's not "discussing" it - he's bloody broadcasting it. And know what? He's not discussing his part in it, either. He's not saying, "I prevented her from getting an abortion," or, "she was 18 when we started dating," or any information relevant to him and his part in her pregnancy. All he's saying is, "She killed our baby."
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Jun 13, 2011 8:56:04 GMT -5
Are you deliberately being thick, or are you just ignoring the post I made? OK, here's a question for you: for what purpose are the laws I posted designed, if not to prevent exactly this sort of thing from happening? Because, if you were to spend the two minutes I spend Googling, you would know that they are to protect private citizens from other private citizens, not private citizens from medical professionals. Medical confidentiality, which our friend was talking about, is indeed to protect private citizens from medical professionals. I responded to your post earlier. What part do you think I have not adequately addressed? You said: But if you don't have an expectation of medical inconfidence, then you can't get upset when someone you tell personal medical information tells it to someone else. Especially if the information effects you directly. The point of my post in the first place was that private individuals have a right to privacy from everyone, even if the person is not held under patient privacy protection. You are ignoring this by saying that, by virtue of him not being a doctor, he can say whatever he wants. That is what you did not answer in full.
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Post by musicalbookworm on Jun 13, 2011 9:06:48 GMT -5
Actually, he didn't talk about our baby, he talked about MY baby...
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Post by lighthorseman on Jun 13, 2011 9:09:29 GMT -5
I don't think he has a right to then say 'oh and then my ex-girlfriend had an abortion'. Maybe a couple of close friends could be told (in fact I can't imagine not confiding in a couple of close friends) but not make it totally public knowledge. His rights end where hers begin. He has NO RIGHT without HER PERMISSION to tell people she had an abortion. I know maybe it works differently for LHM Nurses Incorporated. But for real people? With real compassion? It doesn't work that way. Once again, Iam not disagreeing it was a dick move. But when we're talking about RIGHTS... who are you to decide who has the right to talk about whatever they like? She made it public knowledge when she told him. She had no expectation that he would respect that as a private communication. Now, I'm sure she wasn't expecting him to put it on a billboard, but seriously... once she told him, she thought... what? A messy breakup and he was going to respect her privacy? With REAL people? Please.
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Post by lighthorseman on Jun 13, 2011 9:12:15 GMT -5
Sooo... you DON'T think the guy has a right to discuss his part in a pregnancy??? He is publicly announcing private information, which is a violation of her right to privacy. He's not "discussing" it - he's bloody broadcasting it. And know what? He's not discussing his part in it, either. He's not saying, "I prevented her from getting an abortion," or, "she was 18 when we started dating," or any information relevant to him and his part in her pregnancy. All he's saying is, "She killed our baby." And if that is his perception of events? Who has the right to stop him saying precisely that? (from all I've read, frankly, I think he said what was calculated to cause the most distress possible out of petty revenge. But that is my assumption) Now, you said "He is publicly announcing private information". It wasn't "private information". She told him. At that point, it ceased being private. She trusted him to keep that information confidential maybe, but there was no legal reason compelling him to do so.
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Post by Vene on Jun 13, 2011 10:50:40 GMT -5
And now we have an Aussie blathering about US rights. That is amusing. We have somebody from a country with barely any rights talking about rights in a country where they are fucking everywhere. We hand out federal rights like used condoms.
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Post by QWcanary on Jun 13, 2011 10:55:11 GMT -5
He reminds me of CWC ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) Eee gads, I hope you're not referring to me!? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by lighthorseman on Jun 13, 2011 10:55:14 GMT -5
And now we have an Aussie blathering about US rights. That is amusing. We have somebody from a country with barely any rights talking about rights in a country where they are fucking everywhere. We hand out federal rights like used condoms. We don't have rights?
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Post by Vene on Jun 13, 2011 11:04:15 GMT -5
And now we have an Aussie blathering about US rights. That is amusing. We have somebody from a country with barely any rights talking about rights in a country where they are fucking everywhere. We hand out federal rights like used condoms. We don't have rights? We have as many rights in our 1st amendment as your entire constitution. You have only 4 rights explicitly stated.ETA: Formatting
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Post by lighthorseman on Jun 13, 2011 11:06:03 GMT -5
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