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Post by Fright Vault on Jun 26, 2011 11:12:50 GMT -5
While I'm almost positive that this topic has been addressed before, a search turned up no response. Nonetheless, I apologize if this has already been discussed and rejected.
There have been a countless number of sexist quotes admitted to FSTDT's main page, and for almost every one there are a plethora of requests for a fourth category: SSTDT, or Sexists Say the Darndest Things. Alternatively, renaming RSTDT to B(igots)STDT has also been suggested.
While it's generally understood that "Fundies" doesn't necessarily refer to only the religious, the number of sexist quotes seems high enough that, like Conspiracy Theorists or Racists, it should have its own section.
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Post by VirtualStranger on Jun 26, 2011 13:00:04 GMT -5
It's been suggested a lot. I think the official reason for not making one is that the CTSTDT and RSTDT sections don't get nearly as much traffic as FSTDT.
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Post by whatever on Jun 26, 2011 17:09:06 GMT -5
There's a danger with a sexists section that it would quickly turn from "darndest" to "damndest". Even racist quotes can sometimes be amusing (in a horrible sort of way)... eg: Obama in his "waddymelon swimsuit"... but a section full of mysoginists and woman haters is going to bring out nothing but the worst in people. I feel it would be a turnoff. I feel that the term fundy can be broadly applied to anyone who takes an extreme view of any kind, so perhaps the FSTDT section is the best place for them.
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Post by Jebediah on Jun 26, 2011 21:11:49 GMT -5
I thought the thread title was, "An Addiction to FSTDT?" and I was going to answer with "yes."
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jun 26, 2011 22:51:50 GMT -5
You're just enabling her, guys!
Yeah but I gotta go with...like, everything whatever said.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jun 27, 2011 12:01:15 GMT -5
Considering the policy on quote submissions for the fundie section has been expanded to include any kind of fundie, from religious to political and beyond, I sometimes wonder if the other sections are even necessary at this point.
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Post by Fright Vault on Jun 29, 2011 13:55:39 GMT -5
There's a danger with a sexists section that it would quickly turn from "darndest" to "damndest" ... but a section full of mysoginists and woman haters is going to bring out nothing but the worst in people. I agree with you on that point, though I suspect it's because many of the quotes condone or even encourage rape which is always infuriating regardless of context. In any case, most of the quotes on the main page seem to be "the damndest" already, especially with regards to the subject of homosexuality. |
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jun 29, 2011 18:31:48 GMT -5
I thought the thread title was, "An Addiction to FSTDT?" and I was going to answer with "yes." Hahaha, I thought the same thing! |
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Post by whatever on Jun 29, 2011 18:54:58 GMT -5
There's a danger with a sexists section that it would quickly turn from "darndest" to "damndest" ... but a section full of mysoginists and woman haters is going to bring out nothing but the worst in people. I agree with you on that point, though I suspect it's because many of the quotes condone or even encourage rape which is always infuriating regardless of context. In any case, most of the quotes on the main page seem to be "the damndest" already, especially with regards to the subject of homosexuality. Yes but all those anti-gay posts would be in the sexists' section too. It makes one ask "Why would anyone want to visit the sexists' section?" I for one cannot see the incentive, unless it is to track and oust dangerous mysoginists like Khetlaser, which puts us in the position of spy/informer, a potentially dangerous role. |
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Post by whatever on Jun 29, 2011 19:01:32 GMT -5
I thought the thread title was, "An Addiction to FSTDT?" and I was going to answer with "yes." Hahaha, I thought the same thing! Well, I've spent an awful lot of hours on fstdt recently... ...but I can... still control it... I'm still... OK........... |
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Jul 16, 2011 20:51:18 GMT -5
I think that there should be a SSTDT, but only on the condition that we'd be able to enter quotes into multiple categories.
Fundamentalism is, by definition, strict maintenance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion or ideology. Catholics who want to make the U.S. a theocracy are fundamentalist. Christians who think witches deserve the death penalty are fundamentalist.
Muslims who believe that scantily-clad women cause earthquakes are also fundamentalist, but here's where things get complicated: In this case, the quote is both fundamentalist and sexist in nature, and the sexism probably originates from the fundamentalism. So most people would probably include the quote under FSTDT.
However, sexism is a form of bigotry, defined as prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination on the basis of sex. It is not necessarily religious in nature, and doesn't necessarily come from racism, conspiracism, or fundamentalism. In many cases, it stands on its own, i.e., "Women don't know how to keep their mouths shut."
Therefore, I think that there should be a separate section called SSTDT, as well as the ability to submit quotes into more than one category. (For example, trifectas only get submitted into one category, despite the fact that they fall under all the banners of FSTDT, CSTDT, and RSTDT.)
Homophobia is also a form of bigotry and I would support a HSTDT, except for the fact that most of the quotes that are homophobic are also fundamentalist. In fact, there is probably a larger percentage of homophobic quotes that are fundie than there are a percentage of sexist quotes that are fundie. But this could be solved by the simple "multiple categories" system...
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Post by sithdoughnut on Jul 24, 2011 6:37:37 GMT -5
Why not just use a tag system instead? That way, you can have all the quotes in the same section, but people can specifically read the quotes they're interested in. Seems a lot more efficient to me, and if people want a new category, all that needs to be done is a new tag added.
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Post by Distind on Jul 24, 2011 6:42:10 GMT -5
Why not just use a tag system instead? That way, you can have all the quotes in the same section, but people can specifically read the quotes they're interested in. Seems a lot more efficient to me, and if people want a new category, all that needs to be done is a new tag added. I've thought about this, but I've seen how well they're used on most sites and I'm not particularly interested in having to administrate bad tags as well. |
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Post by sithdoughnut on Jul 24, 2011 6:54:59 GMT -5
I've thought about this, but I've seen how well they're used on most sites and I'm not particularly interested in having to administrate bad tags as well. The tags don't have to be user-created. There's no need for that many of them, after all. The vast majority of quotes appear to cover the same basic categories. It's not like FSTDT is a repository for all quotes ever, so you can limit the categories without excluding anything. That way you avoid the bad tags, and don't have to worry about whether the site needs a new section or not. |
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Jul 24, 2011 19:18:36 GMT -5
I can see that. Like, in the submission window, you could have something like #racist #sexist #christian #jewish #muslim #athiest #creationist #conspiracy #anti-Semetic, whatever, and then if we had a hat trick (say, a racist Christian who thought Obama was being bought by the Jews or something), you could click #racist #anti-Semetic #conspiracy.
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