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Post by scotsgit on Jul 4, 2011 19:00:20 GMT -5
In keeping with how he acted while in office, could we not just promise to build it then 'forget' to do so and then sell it to a third-world dictator? After that we can invade a small island with the intention of liberating it. Guernsey's quite nice this time of year.... ;D
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 4, 2011 19:02:57 GMT -5
In keeping with how he acted while in office, could we not just promise to build it then 'forget' to do so and then sell it to a third-world dictator? Palin's certainly got the money by now. Oh, sorry, thought you said "third grade."
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Post by rookie on Jul 4, 2011 19:17:03 GMT -5
No, actually, you're thinking of Michael Jackson there. Bedtime For Bonzo. Starring a very gifted actor and a monkey who later went on to become president. I find this whole thing amusing. The fact that the British would spend (I am assuming) taxpayer money on a head of state that is not their own makes me laugh. Sure, I regularly travel down Lafayette St. in Baltimore, MD., but I can see a bit of difference between a street name and a statue.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 4, 2011 19:41:45 GMT -5
Bedtime For Bonzo. Starring a very gifted actor and a monkey who later went on to become president. I thought he was going the anal route and working with the technicality that Bonzo was a chimp, not a monkey, though most people know and understand what you're talking about and do not need such anality. I have since remembered Bubbles was also a chimp, so that would have been especially funny if it were the case. Amaranth--I like the word "anality." I think I will keep using it, dictionaries be damned!
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Post by verasthebrujah on Jul 4, 2011 20:55:02 GMT -5
Reagan is probably the most overrated president in American history. Tea Parties want to talk about deficits: look at the deficits since 1980. They exploded as Ronnie cut taxation and increased spending (but only the kind of spending that involves guns or giving money to big business). Moreover, his 1986 tax reform made it almost impossible to get the rich to pay a fair share in income taxes. Furthermore, it has lead to a steady increase in the gap between the rich and the poor. The wealthiest 1% of American families now controls a larger share of American wealth than they have since the Great Depression.
He's given credit for ending the Cold War, but he basically showed up when it was already ending, then shouted, "Look what I did!" The contributions that he did make to this end were either also bad for the US (massively increasing military spending beyond what was reasonable or sustainable) or are typically ignored by those claiming to be philosophical heirs of RWR (using diplomatic means to encourage reform).
Oh, right, then there was that whole Iran-Contra thing. Remember, that scandal where the Reagan Administration provided aid to America's enemies, the Contras, after being told by Congress specifically that they could not? I seem to remember something about helping the enemies of the United States in the Constitution. Oh, right:
Of course, American Dad says it better than I ever could.
In short, I'm very disappointed in you, Great Britain.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jul 4, 2011 21:01:03 GMT -5
Britain wasn't so great anyways.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 4, 2011 21:15:35 GMT -5
Personally I think the stagnation and unrest in the USSR coming to a head did far more to end the cold war than Reagan and his shenanigans. The theory is that because the Soviets felt compelled to match the NATO OPFOR in terms of military capability, they spent themselves into said stagnation, whish lead to said unrest. If true, then yes, Reagan played a part in the Sov's downfall. Sure he played a part, just a relatively minor one. A large state imploding like that for economic reasons takes years and years cumulative economic fuckups. Just because it all went boom during Reagan's watch doesn't mean he played a large part in it. Not saying he didn't contribute at all, just that he wasn't the main force behind it. Personally, I'd put the most blame on Afghanistan and the space race.
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Post by scotsgit on Jul 5, 2011 4:25:11 GMT -5
In short, I'm very disappointed in you, Great Britain. Because somehow the whole fucking country is to blame.
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Post by scotsgit on Jul 5, 2011 4:26:25 GMT -5
Britain wasn't so great anyways. At least in this country we admitted to building an empire, not 'bringing liberty to all'.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jul 5, 2011 4:36:36 GMT -5
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 5, 2011 4:40:09 GMT -5
Britain wasn't so great anyways. At least in this country we admitted to building an empire, not 'bringing liberty to all'. Only because it was socially acceptable back then.
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Post by scotsgit on Jul 5, 2011 6:38:00 GMT -5
At least we didn't side with napoleon.
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Post by scotsgit on Jul 5, 2011 6:39:42 GMT -5
At least in this country we admitted to building an empire, not 'bringing liberty to all'. Only because it was socially acceptable back then. Did I say it was socially acceptable?
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 5, 2011 7:04:34 GMT -5
All of our countries suck in their own special way.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 5, 2011 7:21:35 GMT -5
Only because it was socially acceptable back then. Did I say it was socially acceptable? My point was that the only reason Britain didn't bullshit about running an empire was because running an empire was not nearly as morally repugnant as it is nowadays.
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