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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 7, 2009 23:01:55 GMT -5
I haven't seen the movie either, but I've heard about it. In any case, there is enough of both in the graphic novel to upset your average censorship nut, so I deliberately didn't specify.
And I don't see why you'd enjoy looking at penises.
To quote a friend of mine: "Sex is the most unsexy thing in the world. You take the 2 ugliest parts & mash them together."
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Post by NoLeafClover on May 9, 2009 22:14:25 GMT -5
It's probably because over bazillions of years some have been lead to believe that violence is a part of the human condition, where as sex is a bad, dirty, naughty thing that's only meant for procreation. Sex gets treated as though it's some profoundly evil impulse, whereas sometimes there's a blase "well, that's just the way it goes, us humans like to kick the shit out of one another, it's in the Bible and everything".
There's also the thought that you can control violent impulses, but any sudden urge to have sex with anyone will results in the world crumbling on itself and ceasing to exist as you try to fuck the nearest object that even vaguely resembles your genitalia of choice.
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Post by The_L on May 11, 2009 15:32:01 GMT -5
Sex: keep it away from really little kids, and explain to older kids a healthy way to approach the idea of sex before exposing them to adult content of any sort. Otherwise, no problems.
Violence: Not too much gore, especially around the kiddies; but no violence at all is a bit silly. I watched Bambi when I was 3--hell, I still own the video--and it didn't bother me much. Just make sure to talk to the kids about violence, and when it is and isn't justified.
Swearing: Not around the pre-school set, as they're pretty much parrots and you don't want to explain to the kindergarten teacher where Phyllis learned so many four-letter words. However, as long as you explain that there are situations in which swearing is a really bad idea, I don't see why you couldn't swear around older kids.
In other words, I believe censorship--BY THE PARENTS--is ok in reasonable doses, but that no form or amount of censorship is an acceptable substitute for sitting down and talking to your kids. Keeping sexual/violent/profane material away from the wee ones, and censoring the fuck out of everything on principle, are two very different things.
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Post by NoLeafClover on May 11, 2009 15:56:49 GMT -5
In other words, I believe censorship--BY THE PARENTS--is ok in reasonable doses, but that no form or amount of censorship is an acceptable substitute for sitting down and talking to your kids. Keeping sexual/violent/profane material away from the wee ones, and censoring the fuck out of everything on principle, are two very different things. I completely and totally agree.
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Post by mistermuncher on May 11, 2009 18:06:49 GMT -5
At the end of the day, material viewed by children is, or at least, should be, the responsibility of whatever adult is in charge of said children, and, possibly, statutory age certification of some kind. And that is all. To go further is to feed grown adults milk, as babies choke on steak.
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Post by tygerarmy on May 13, 2009 17:19:50 GMT -5
These pro-censorship people actually have a point. Since everyone that's sexually active has AIDS or some other STD, it's important to prevent kids from getting anything that could distract them from putting everything into their military service after they're pressured into enlisting (note: I'm not saying everyone in the military was pressured; I know several people who have made the choice for themselves. It's just that they're so goddamn aggressive in recruiting). We also need to keep them away from naughty language because we don't want to give them ammo to talk back to the drill sergeant, do we? I'm lost with the connection between violence, sex, swearing and joining the military. --- It is all on the parents. When your kid is out in the world they're going to hear swearing at the mall, supermarket, etc. The parents teach them not to curse and to be respectful. Kids are going to learn to curse from friends, at school and from siblings. The parents have to raise the kid not to tell their first grade teacher to go fuck themselves for giving them homework. Just like swearing kids will discover sex and violence and the parents have to make sure their kid is prepared. I have two examples. My friends son is now 11 has known curse words for almost half his life still almost never uses them without signs from dad that in the current environment/context he's allowed to. And has a clear understanding that movie/video game violence is fiction. Another friends younger brothers is not yet 5 curses, hits people/ wishes they were dead. Poor parenting and the child was mostly raised by his siblings.
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