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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 7, 2011 23:44:01 GMT -5
Where have I heard that before? And why do I find it no comfort that two wrongs apparently make a right? Because it's funny as shit. Now deal with it.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Sept 7, 2011 23:49:27 GMT -5
I would think that encouraging theft would be enough to lose them any high ground. I mean, the fundie shit is bad but they weren't doing anything WRONG with that, but it's not okay to encourage thievery.
Also...you know...it's a game. I don't know much about Minecraft but there are sometimes ways to back up builds in some games; in Second Life, at least, you used to be able to do it.
Also also, that temple of Satan was wicked awesome.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 8, 2011 0:56:09 GMT -5
I would think that encouraging theft would be enough to lose them any high ground. I mean, the fundie shit is bad but they weren't doing anything WRONG with that, but it's not okay to encourage thievery. Considering that Team Avolition was invited over specifically because of the admin abuse of power, I think it's safe to say that the fundie stuff was just secondary and a pathway to punishment Honestly, Team Avolition seems like they are actually pretty nice people once you get to know them. Hell, half the people they griefed in their first set of videos are now on their team, griefing alongside them. And these were people who were MAJOR mad over this stuff. Indeed there is. Smart admins will use a system that allows them to restore pieces of the world at a time without having to do it all at once. Surprisingly, a lot of the people who are spouting how superior they are with computers are inept at even roll backing an entire server. Team Avolition are pretty cool. They grief jerks and don't afraid of anything. I would consider what they do lesser to kicking over a bully's legos after he's been shouting at other kids. True this.
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 8, 2011 8:04:17 GMT -5
Because it's funny as shit. If you're a raging socipath, perhaps. If the FSTDT server was hacked "for the lulz" by a bunchof Christian trolls, y'all would be pissing yourselves crying. Yes, indeed, how dare I hold a single standard? I'm clearly the bad guy here.
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Post by Amaranth on Sept 8, 2011 8:09:41 GMT -5
I would think that encouraging theft would be enough to lose them any high ground. Seeing as how I'm the only one not saying this is awesome, I'm going to have to call you on a strawman. Nobody's saying the widduw jeebus fweaks haz duh hi gwownd. Please don't misrepresent me.
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Post by shadowpanther on Sept 8, 2011 10:43:46 GMT -5
Well thanks to a combination of this video and a friend getting it, I've been playing Minecraft for six hours straight after buying it. I hope you're fucking pleased with yourself.
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Post by malicious_bloke on Sept 8, 2011 12:35:43 GMT -5
Well thanks to a combination of this video and a friend getting it, I've been playing Minecraft for six hours straight after buying it. I hope you're fucking pleased with yourself. That's stage 1. Stage 2, make a fuckoff enormous castle. Stage 3, get bored, get a stack of TNT and blow 9 shades of shit out of someone else's creation
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Post by shadowpanther on Sept 8, 2011 13:29:08 GMT -5
I've started on the castle. Hollowed out a hill and then built fuckoff towers on top. Then put lava on either side of the door. And a waterfall covering the back-door.
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Post by malicious_bloke on Sept 8, 2011 14:14:59 GMT -5
I had me a castle but I got bored and tnt'd it. Now I have a pyramid
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Post by syaoranvee on Sept 8, 2011 16:15:06 GMT -5
Except their time right before the Reddit feud and now after shows they have gone down the route of just being a bunch of griefer mercenaries who can be bought with the most amusing comment sent to them.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 8, 2011 16:29:27 GMT -5
Because it's funny as shit. If you're a raging socipath, perhaps. umad I think I'd be much more pissed if the FSTDT server was encouraging people to steal from their family and/or significant others to donate to the server. But apparently knocking over easily-replaced cyber legos is a much worse crime. Who knew? Cry moar. The Reddit feud has existed since the beginning of the channel. As far as "mercenaries" goes... so? Besides, 80% of their videos are caused by comments from the people they're trolling in the first place. Protip: If there's a bunch of trolls on the loose, don't challenge them, they WILL take you up on it.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Sept 8, 2011 16:58:29 GMT -5
I would think that encouraging theft would be enough to lose them any high ground. Seeing as how I'm the only one not saying this is awesome, I'm going to have to call you on a strawman. Nobody's saying the widduw jeebus fweaks haz duh hi gwownd. Please don't misrepresent me. I'm not trying to? I'm trying to point out why I have little issue with this and why it's not the same thing as if a server that was simply fundie were griefed like this.
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Post by Haseen on Sept 9, 2011 3:39:50 GMT -5
//Never played Minecraft. Can't you make periodic backups of it, like if you really cared about it? I'd think that would be the case, considering that 95% of what I've seen about Minecraft is griefing-related. Anyways, the video was damn hilarious, not only the eventual destruction and building of a Satan temple, but also the drowning suicide in the holy water. I can hardly imagine a better "victim", considering a supposedly "Christian" admin wanted to pay for the server with stolen money. Amaranth: "Nothing bad should happen to anybody, ever" may be a noble idea, but it's completely incompatible with reality. And some people DO deserve bad things.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 9, 2011 20:51:58 GMT -5
//Never played Minecraft. Can't you make periodic backups of it, like if you really cared about it? I'd think that would be the case, considering that 95% of what I've seen about Minecraft is griefing-related. Basically this. of course, if the admin is too incompetent to make back ups AND too arrogant to think "Hey, maybe proclaiming that this group of griefers sucks ass and that we can take care of them easily when we can't even make back ups is a bad idea", then they probably deserve it and you probably shouldn't play on that server. Human-guided karma
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Post by malicious_bloke on Sept 11, 2011 11:16:32 GMT -5
//Never played Minecraft. Can't you make periodic backups of it, like if you really cared about it? I'd think that would be the case, considering that 95% of what I've seen about Minecraft is griefing-related. Basically this. of course, if the admin is too incompetent to make back ups AND too arrogant to think "Hey, maybe proclaiming that this group of griefers sucks ass and that we can take care of them easily when we can't even make back ups is a bad idea", then they probably deserve it and you probably shouldn't play on that server. Kinda. As with anything else, not backing up is downright retarded. But the thing is rolling back a server to undo damage done by griefers will also rollback any legitimate stuff done by actual players in that time. It's really annoying to have to do it.
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