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Post by Dragon Zachski on Sept 23, 2011 18:16:58 GMT -5
And yes, this is rape.
The social conditioning is strong, however. I didn't even come to that conclusion, and this was with me feeling sorry for the guy.
*knocks own head with fist*
I'll have full control of you some day, psyche...
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Sept 23, 2011 18:26:10 GMT -5
Is there an actual link to this story?
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Sept 23, 2011 18:48:17 GMT -5
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Post by Thejebusfire on Sept 23, 2011 21:50:11 GMT -5
This is called "Life Imitates Art Again"? What happened the first time? Maybe they were refering to this: |
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Sept 23, 2011 22:01:06 GMT -5
It most likely is fake, but comments like this are not:
Seriously? Wow.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Sept 24, 2011 0:12:13 GMT -5
Daily Mail? That makes it far more likely to be bullshit. |
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Post by booley on Sept 24, 2011 13:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by booley on Sept 24, 2011 15:50:48 GMT -5
... Evidently, it's an older story with many people calling it an urban legend. I don't really care, though, since the attitude surrounding it is very telling regardless of the story's truthfulness. I can actually forgive the attitude because I think I understand where's it's coming from. It has to do with how people think subconsciously. In short, rape is about power. But all our lives and through 99% of human history, power has been personified as a male trait. The idea of a man being helpless and still being a guy isn't that common yet in people's subconscious. Woman can be powerless and still be women (in fact they have the opposite problem in this regard) but men still can't be . (and remember I'm talking from a narrative POV) And if you still have power then you can't really be a victim of rape, so the logic goes. the powerless male doesn't fit the narrative. And when something doesn't fit a narrative that people understand, they ignore it. And they don't know they are doing this. Adding to the problem is that there is a narrative that many people do understand that's rape FANTASY. Many people male or female have rape fantasies. Many just wont' admit it in polite conversation. Yes, obviously rape fantasy has no correlation to rape reality. (Rapists never use safe words for instance.) But the point is people understand rape a s a fantasy. So when they hear about a man being sexually victimized, they load into it the context they do understand. And they do this without even knowing they are doing it. Doesn't make it right, of course. But it's harder for me to blame someone for thoughts they dont' even know they are having. |
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Sept 24, 2011 16:22:01 GMT -5
The Mens-Rights loons are aware of rape fantasies. In fact, they blow it way out of proportion. According to them, most if not all women have rape fantasies, therefore they actually want it.
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Post by lighthorseman on Sept 24, 2011 16:49:30 GMT -5
The Mens-Rights loons are aware of rape fantasies. In fact, they blow it way out of proportion. According to them, most if not all women have rape fantasies, I've actually been told that's the case by women. |
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Sept 24, 2011 16:54:21 GMT -5
I don't know, but I find it highly unlikely.
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Sept 24, 2011 17:00:06 GMT -5
I don't know, but I find it highly unlikely. Not necessarily rape fantasies, but probably fantasies of a dominant partner. It's not uncommon. Rape scares the shit out of me; a partner who makes the 'first move' and leads to a consensual act does not. |
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Post by booley on Sept 24, 2011 23:29:59 GMT -5
The Mens-Rights loons are aware of rape fantasies. In fact, they blow it way out of proportion. According to them, most if not all women have rape fantasies, therefore they actually want it. well yes and no. Many women do have rape fantasies. Many men have rape fantasies. Both fantasize about being the rapist and the rapee. And Both would be horrified at an actual real live rape. So yes, women have rape fantasies. And those men are still assholes for thinking that justifies rape reality. Please send these men to my house so I may kick them in the balls. |
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Sept 25, 2011 0:17:04 GMT -5
I am doubtful of the claim "most or all," I know it happens.
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Post by Random Guy on Sept 25, 2011 2:42:48 GMT -5
You stole my post! Curse the excessive number of tropers on this site! |
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