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Post by big_electron on Nov 9, 2011 11:31:21 GMT -5
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 9, 2011 13:54:14 GMT -5
Hmm... potentially, I suppose, though I'll have to wait and see. The rape apologists are out in full force (by which I mean there's at least one) in the comments section, though  of the "Her accusations of sexual harassment are sexually harassing the poor man" variety. Cue the monkey! |
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Post by Vene on Nov 9, 2011 14:33:42 GMT -5
Cain settled a number of years ago with the woman in question. I really doubt he would have settled if the allegation had no bearing in reality.
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Post by Vypernight on Nov 9, 2011 15:28:55 GMT -5
Considering how republicans love a politican with a scandal, I'd say Cain's pretty much won the primaries.
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Post by ltfred on Nov 9, 2011 16:46:46 GMT -5
Well, it's all over. There's no way that a black man who has sexually assaulted white women can win anything, ever. That's hits too many white-people fears.
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Post by nickiknack on Nov 9, 2011 17:29:08 GMT -5
Well, it's all over. There's no way that a black man who has sexually assaulted white women can win anything, ever. That's hits too many white-people fears. And Bingo was his name-o...it also doesn't help that most of the white republican base have this fear . |
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Post by VirtualStranger on Nov 9, 2011 22:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by ltfred on Nov 9, 2011 22:42:03 GMT -5
Why didn't you fight it in court, then Cain?
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 9, 2011 22:50:51 GMT -5
Cain settled a number of years ago with the woman in question. I really doubt he would have settled if the allegation had no bearing in reality. Why is she bringing it up again if Cain settled? Maybe I'm missing something regarding the US legal system, but doesn't the fact that he settled mean that she no longer has any legal case against him? |
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Post by ltfred on Nov 9, 2011 22:52:47 GMT -5
Cain settled a number of years ago with the woman in question. I really doubt he would have settled if the allegation had no bearing in reality. Why is she bringing it up again if Cain settled? Maybe I'm missing something regarding the US legal system, but doesn't the fact that he settled mean that she no longer has any legal case against him? He insulted her in public; now she's defending her reputation, while also destroying his chances to win the presidency. Good revenge, I'd say. His public comment about the case is also the only reason she can talk. Otherwise he'd be protected by the non-disclosure agreement they signed. |
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Post by Vene on Nov 9, 2011 22:53:05 GMT -5
Cain settled a number of years ago with the woman in question. I really doubt he would have settled if the allegation had no bearing in reality. Why is she bringing it up again if Cain settled? Maybe I'm missing something regarding the US legal system, but doesn't the fact that he settled mean that she no longer has any legal case against him? She might not have a legal case, but it doesn't necessarily follow that the accusation can't be mentioned in order to harm his image while he is campaigning. |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 9, 2011 22:56:50 GMT -5
Why is she bringing it up again if Cain settled? Maybe I'm missing something regarding the US legal system, but doesn't the fact that he settled mean that she no longer has any legal case against him? She might not have a legal case, but it doesn't necessarily follow that the accusation can't be mentioned in order to harm his image while he is campaigning. Well that makes sense. |
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Post by Kit Walker on Nov 9, 2011 23:31:27 GMT -5
I so don't care. I just can't bring myself to give half a damn. This is Reason #4921 that he shouldn't be President, and I personally find his utter lack of foreign policy knowledge (not experience...understanding of the basic concepts), his poorly thought out policy plans, and his flippant response when called on those failings to be more pertinent to the discussion. JFK couldn't keep it in his pants, nor could Clinton, but at least they had an idea of what they were trying to accomplish. Cain just seems to be saying "Hey! I could do that!"
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Post by davedan on Nov 9, 2011 23:37:39 GMT -5
LtFred has the settlement agreement between them been published? While it would usually have a confidentiality clause it may not.
Vene: There are lots of reasons for settling even when you are 100% certain you did nothing wrong.
1. Even if you did nothing wrong there is a chance you won't be accepted. This is especially the case where there is no other corroborating evidence either way.
2. It is often cheaper to settle than to go all the way to a hearing.
3. Even when vindicated at a hearing you still have your name dragged through the mud. People may remember the accusation more than the vindication.
There are others but I think those are pretty good reasons to settle. I think Cain is pretty scary really with the 9 9 9 thing but really I don't think a persons sexual misconduct has much to do with whether they are a good or bad president. Although I grant that the fact that its not a consenting adults thing is a worry. But at the same time its still not like Uday Hussein.
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Post by Vene on Nov 10, 2011 1:04:10 GMT -5
LtFred has the settlement agreement between them been published? While it would usually have a confidentiality clause it may not. Vene: There are lots of reasons for settling even when you are 100% certain you did nothing wrong. 1. Even if you did nothing wrong there is a chance you won't be accepted. This is especially the case where there is no other corroborating evidence either way. 2. It is often cheaper to settle than to go all the way to a hearing. 3. Even when vindicated at a hearing you still have your name dragged through the mud. People may remember the accusation more than the vindication. There are others but I think those are pretty good reasons to settle. I think Cain is pretty scary really with the 9 9 9 thing but really I don't think a persons sexual misconduct has much to do with whether they are a good or bad president. Although I grant that the fact that its not a consenting adults thing is a worry. But at the same time its still not like Uday Hussein. Those are all valid points, but I still think that it is consistent with his character. This is further validated, at least in my mind, with his inept handling of the issue. But, it makes little practical difference with me because there is no way I will ever vote for the man as he is a complete moron and his ideas for this country are toxic. And the thing I'm mostly concerned about is the consent issue. |
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of the "Her accusations of sexual harassment are sexually harassing the poor man" variety. Cue the monkey!
