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Post by SimSim on Nov 30, 2011 17:11:21 GMT -5
I didn't think it was possible, but he's found a way to be even more disgusting. He's using his disabled daughter(she has Trisomy 18) for political purposes. Even worse, he's using her as an example of something that is demonstrably false. The deciding factor, he said, was that “we see with every socialized-medicine country, which is absolutely where we’re headed, those on the margins of life are treated differently. . . . They’re not given the care, the resources aren’t allocated because it is very costly, and my little girl would probably be seen as — I hear, not only from anecdotal but actual evidence from other countries — that children like this simply do not get care.”
Though Democrats have barely answered this charge, Santorum’s reasoning is debatable. Unlike in countries with socialized medicine, the new health-care law achieves its goals almost entirely by increasing access to private insurance and private providers. The law’s supporters say children like Bella will be better off because insurance companies will no longer be able to impose annual or lifetime limits on coverage. And even critics of the legislation generally applaud its provision barring insurers from denying coverage because of a preexisting condition or disability. Edit: Useful to include link to the article. www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/gop-hopeful-rick-santorum-campaigns-with-a-seriously-ill-daughter-at-home/2011/11/28/gIQAMWdHAO_story_1.html |
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Post by Vene on Nov 30, 2011 17:14:46 GMT -5
Is this like the claim that Stephen Hawking would be dead if he was born in a country with universal health care? I think it is.
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Post by MaybeNever on Nov 30, 2011 17:42:41 GMT -5
Yeah, if Hawking came from a place like Britain he never would have made it past 25. Thank God he's from America where we don't deny coverage to sick people.
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Post by ltfred on Nov 30, 2011 18:00:21 GMT -5
This is pure policy projection on his part*. Not only is that not a problem in public health insurance, it's a huge one with private insurers.
In a public health insurance system, triage is the name of the game. The mostly likely to easiest get better, crossed with the most serious long-term problems that can easiest be dealt with now, are treated first. In a private health insurance system, they ignore all that clever moralising- it's just about profit. How good is your insurance plan? If it's AAA+, to use a financial term, you'll get a doctor's visit within minutes of your broken arm or stubbed toe. But an F-grade insurance program can see you wait hours to cure your heart attack^.
Not only is Santorum wrong about Britain, he's wrong about America. Santorum and his family will never want for health care. But many, many millions will. If Santorum had been born poor, his child very well may have died from health neglect, like 18,000 other victims of the system he says is the best in the world.
AND it STILL costs more.
*And the Assonant Alliterative Association's Award for Achievement goes to...
^Assuming that there's no government health insurance system available. Like, say, an emergency ward.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 30, 2011 18:33:01 GMT -5
Australia would cover her.
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Post by ltfred on Nov 30, 2011 18:37:19 GMT -5
Australia would cover her. And we'd cover her better, and cheaper. |
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Post by lexikon on Nov 30, 2011 19:03:56 GMT -5
I would be offended if I thought he knew what he was talking about.
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Post by Thejebusfire on Nov 30, 2011 19:20:30 GMT -5
Funny how he didn't present any of this evidence.
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 30, 2011 19:27:36 GMT -5
I would be offended if I thought he knew what he was talking about. I’m offended that he doesn’t. He has a hand in shaping actual policy. It is imperative that he knows what he talks about. But he doesn’t care. This santorum is too much fecal matter, not enough lube and froth. |
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Post by SimSim on Nov 30, 2011 19:51:14 GMT -5
Funny how he didn't present any of this evidence. Of course he didn't, it's a conservative meme and has no basis in reality. |
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Post by Paradox on Nov 30, 2011 20:13:56 GMT -5
Yeah, if Hawking came from a place like Britain he never would have made it past 25. Thank God he's from America where we don't deny coverage to sick people. The funny part of that whole stupid debacle was that Hawking is British, and lives in Britain. It made it all the more sweet. |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Nov 30, 2011 20:35:56 GMT -5
Yeah, if Hawking came from a place like Britain he never would have made it past 25. Thank God he's from America where we don't deny coverage to sick people. The funny part of that whole stupid debacle was that Hawking is British, and lives in Britain. It made it all the more sweet.  Or so I assume. |
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Post by MaybeNever on Nov 30, 2011 20:45:10 GMT -5
Thanks for having my back, DPD.
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Post by nickiknack on Nov 30, 2011 21:42:25 GMT -5
Not shocking coming someone whose last name has become a slang term for the by product of anal sex...
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Post by sylvana on Dec 1, 2011 1:19:46 GMT -5
The same party that on public television basically said that the poor who get sick should die, to loud cheers from the audience, is now saying that if there was universal health care his daughter would not get treated.
This level of hypocrisy, doublethink and downright lies and ignorance is beyond comprehension.
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