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Post by Wykked Wytch on Dec 1, 2011 0:48:16 GMT -5
I'm not defending racism, I'm defending people's right to hold views you disagree with. Remember they probably find your POV just as abhorent as you find their's. Also, what is it we say anytime anyone gets in a flap about "forcing" churches to conduct homosexual marriage? I don't have to be "tolerant of intolerance." Just because churches are allowed to be racist bigoted fucktardians and discriminate against interracial couples doesn't mean I have to respect them or treat them like anything other than monsters.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 1, 2011 0:53:03 GMT -5
I'm not defending racism, I'm defending people's right to hold views you disagree with. Remember they probably find your POV just as abhorent as you find their's. Also, what is it we say anytime anyone gets in a flap about "forcing" churches to conduct homosexual marriage? I don't have to be "tolerant of intolerance." Just because churches are allowed to be racist bigoted fucktardians and discriminate against interracial couples doesn't mean I have to respect them or treat them like anything other than monsters. Of course not. But it is kinda hard to mainain the moral high ground doing the same thing as those you criticise.
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Post by sylvana on Dec 1, 2011 1:26:04 GMT -5
Unfortunately Lighthorseman is right. Also given how churches seem to somehow be exempt from discrimination policing means that nothing will ever happen. Of course if you really want to screw them over though, you go and try and get an interracial marriage license at that church. If the pastor refuses to provide it, he will loose his license as that is one aspect where he cannot impose his personal opinions. Of course during the whole thing he can pretty much call the couple evil and hellspawn and basically be a normal racist to the same level that the phelpses are bigots.
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Dec 1, 2011 1:28:52 GMT -5
I don't have to be "tolerant of intolerance." Just because churches are allowed to be racist bigoted fucktardians and discriminate against interracial couples doesn't mean I have to respect them or treat them like anything other than monsters. Of course not. But it is kinda hard to mainain the moral high ground doing the same thing as those you criticise. Actually, it is. I'm on the side of not discriminating against people for their race, creed, sexual orientation, etc. They think that it's okay. I'm not discriminating against them. I know that other people have a right to their opinions, but that doesn't make their opinions any more respectable.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 1, 2011 1:37:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately Lighthorseman is right. Also given how churches seem to somehow be exempt from discrimination policing means that nothing will ever happen. Of course if you really want to screw them over though, you go and try and get an interracial marriage license at that church. If the pastor refuses to provide it, he will loose his license as that is one aspect where he cannot impose his personal opinions. Of course during the whole thing he can pretty much call the couple evil and hellspawn and basically be a normal racist to the same level that the phelpses are bigots. I could be mistaken, but I thought that individual churches can decline to marry whomsoever they like? That always comes up in the SSM discussions "Argh, hey're gunna force our church to marry fags!" "Well they havn't forced anyone to marry interracial cuples if they don't agree with it"
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Post by RavynousHunter on Dec 1, 2011 1:40:22 GMT -5
Do stay classy, Kentucky. Though, they do make my state look marginally better by comparison...
(Why the fuck I wrote "Kansas" will forever be a mystery to me...)
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Post by Wykked Wytch on Dec 1, 2011 1:41:11 GMT -5
Unfortunately Lighthorseman is right. Also given how churches seem to somehow be exempt from discrimination policing means that nothing will ever happen. Of course if you really want to screw them over though, you go and try and get an interracial marriage license at that church. If the pastor refuses to provide it, he will loose his license as that is one aspect where he cannot impose his personal opinions. Of course during the whole thing he can pretty much call the couple evil and hellspawn and basically be a normal racist to the same level that the phelpses are bigots. Yes, I do realize that churches don't have to provide services because they are private organizations. However, they can be influenced to change through social pressure. If news got out around here that a store owner kicked out an interracial couple, that store would be boycotted in a snap. Churches have the right to oppose interracial marriage. I have a right to say that those churches are run by fucktards. I don't see what's so hard to understand about this.
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Post by ironbite on Dec 1, 2011 2:23:01 GMT -5
Yeah let's let these fucking morons keep their pre-Civil War values. Because dragging them kicking and screaming into the modern world is just so hard.
Ironbite-hope they enjoy the ensuing lawsuit.
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Post by Jodie on Dec 1, 2011 2:23:54 GMT -5
You need to log in to read the article now, when you did not have to do so a few hours ago.
Hmmm....
Edit: and the article is suddenly working again. WTF?
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Post by Caitshidhe on Dec 1, 2011 2:26:36 GMT -5
No one is saying they can't disapprove of interracial couples. They can. They clearly do. And they will continue to do so for many billions of years until they have successfully inbred themselves to death. They SHOULDN'T think that all those drun'd brown folk are subhuman and treat them accordingly, and thinking it makes them assholes just as much as thinking women are less capable or less deserving of rights makes you an asshole.
HOWEVER.
You are NOT allowed to ACT on this thinking. I don't care how badly you hate them--you are not entitled to ban ANYONE from ANYWHERE for any reason like race or sex or identity or personal beliefs. That makes you an asshole.
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Post by MaybeNever on Dec 1, 2011 3:45:09 GMT -5
Yeah let's let these fucking morons keep their pre-Civil War values. Lincoln said that he hoped to have God on his side but had to have Kentucky. Possibly this was so that the necessity of destroying the southern states was made clear to people in the north?
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Post by RavynousHunter on Dec 1, 2011 4:08:23 GMT -5
Yeah let's let these fucking morons keep their pre-Civil War values. Because dragging them kicking and screaming into the modern world is just so hard. Ironbite-hope they enjoy the ensuing lawsuit. No, its just more satisfying to watch them die off slowly.
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Post by lighthorseman on Dec 1, 2011 4:08:59 GMT -5
No one is saying they can't disapprove of interracial couples. They can. They clearly do. And they will continue to do so for many billions of years until they have successfully inbred themselves to death. They SHOULDN'T think that all those drun'd brown folk are subhuman and treat them accordingly, and thinking it makes them assholes just as much as thinking women are less capable or less deserving of rights makes you an asshole. HOWEVER. You are NOT allowed to ACT on this thinking. I don't care how badly you hate them--you are not entitled to ban ANYONE from ANYWHERE for any reason like race or sex or identity or personal beliefs. That makes you an asshole. I think churches are allowed, actually.
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Post by Rime on Dec 1, 2011 4:42:07 GMT -5
I personally don't agree with the actions of the church, but it's their social club. With this kind of publicity, this will only hurt that congregation, and reflects badly because making a decision about someone's character based on someone's skin color is wrong. I also believe that the publicity will also bring that social pressure. It's just going to take some more time in the South, unfortunately. And most of those commenters don't realize they're the subhuman trash. They make me sick. Except for that zperra commenter. I believe she's a proper southern lady.
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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Dec 1, 2011 5:03:13 GMT -5
Do stay classy, Kentucky. Though, they do make my state look marginally better by comparison... (Why the fuck I wrote "Kansas" will forever be a mystery to me...) Jazzy will tell you why you wrote Kansas.
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