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Post by Rat Of Steel on May 8, 2009 23:44:21 GMT -5
www.post-gazette.com/pg/09127...MOSTEMAILEDBOXGROVE CITY, Pa. -- A student is appealing his suspension from a Christian college in Mercer County for appearing in gay porn videos using a pseudonym. Made me think of this article. Live awhile away from this place. Just wondering what student would admit to watching gay porn? What makes you think it was a student who saw him in said videos?
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Post by arcrow on May 8, 2009 23:50:42 GMT -5
www.post-gazette.com/pg/09127...MOSTEMAILEDBOXGROVE CITY, Pa. -- A student is appealing his suspension from a Christian college in Mercer County for appearing in gay porn videos using a pseudonym. Made me think of this article. Live awhile away from this place. Just wondering what student would admit to watching gay porn? What makes you think it was a student who saw him in said videos? Other then the article saying it was, nothing much. Probably was a pervy old teach that got caught watching it lol
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Post by darthtoxic on May 9, 2009 0:06:39 GMT -5
*Copy'd from the thread I made on the subject*
Though I oppose it, I'm quite surprised that nobody seemed to expect the school to try and control the students' lives even outside the school walls.
I really, really want to side with the school on this anyway, though. The bulletproof, holy institution of high school prom sickens me to the very core, and I'm not ashamed to say that it gave my burdened soul a warm fuzzy feeling of relief to see someone fucking with it and attempting to put the kibosh on it for at least one kid - shit, before I die, I still want to spectacularly ruin a few proms and fuck over a few stupid teenagers (What? Bitter? Naw!) But, petty personal vendettas aside, yeah - religious fascism and all that.
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Post by clockworkgirl21 on May 9, 2009 0:40:07 GMT -5
Fucking religious private schools. I'd consider it an honor to be thrown out of one.
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Post by Lady Renae on May 9, 2009 2:12:25 GMT -5
Man... I had to actually work to get kicked out of Catholic school! Hell, they thought I was a witch and they didn't kick me out. I guess they loved my mom's money too much. I don't even remember what made them finally do it. (I do, however, remember the students cheering when I left class on my last day... assholes.)
Slightly more on topic, I'm not sure how exactly anyone thinks they can control a teenager once they walk out the door. These guys need to excavate the engorged bugs from their asses and admit they don't know what they're talking about. This, of course, will probably not happen.
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Post by Dr. Waldorf X on May 9, 2009 2:31:27 GMT -5
Ah, the good old Christian method of laziness: "He's committed sin! Send him away so he can't sin around here anymore!!!" Its the same kind of shit that happens when a fundie parent finds out that their kid is gay, they send the kid away and pretend that it never happened!
Whether the kid went to his girlfriend's prom or not is none of the school's business. More fucking indoctrination hypocrisy. "He's using his God given freewill!!! God doesn't want him to use his God given rights!!!"
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Post by malendras on May 9, 2009 3:00:07 GMT -5
It's one thing to have stupid rules in school, it's completely different when there also applied outside of school. That kind of thing is pretty common actually. My old HS had rules that prohibited students from saying or doing anything that was against catholic dogma both inside and outside the school. Since I attended they've added a provision that stresses internet posts. Quotes from my student handbook with the rules: “Admission to and continued enrollment in this school include responsibilities regarding conduct, both inside and outside the classroom and school, and students are expected to conduct themselves in such a manner as to be a credit both to themselves and to their school." "For Example, a student’s freedom of speech is limited in many important aspects here at our school. Speech, either written or oral, contrary to the Roman Catholic faith, the teachings of the church or the directives of the local Bishop or Ordinary is prohibited. as is any other speech which is contrary or disruptive to the philosophy and purposes of our school."
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Post by canadian mojo on May 9, 2009 6:44:40 GMT -5
The day after the prom:
The student saunters into the principle's office and pulls a skimpy little pair of panties out of his pocket. He smiles and caresses his cheek with the silky fabric for a moment before dropping them on the principle's desk.
He gives a little wink and a mock salute; "I'll go clear out my locker now. Caio." and then waltzes out the door and down the hall singing "I'm singing in the rain".
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Post by Trevelyan on May 9, 2009 13:07:11 GMT -5
Well if this kid goes to a secular schools prom where there will be dancing, music, hand holding, and even kissing. He might see these things going on and realize that these aren't actually all that bad. Then all of the hard work of brainwashing will be undone. That's just not fair to the fundie school now is it?
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Post by szaleniec on May 9, 2009 13:07:50 GMT -5
That kind of thing is pretty common actually. My old HS had rules that prohibited students from saying or doing anything that was against catholic dogma both inside and outside the school. Since I attended they've added a provision that stresses internet posts. Quotes from my student handbook with the rules: “Admission to and continued enrollment in this school include responsibilities regarding conduct, both inside and outside the classroom and school, and students are expected to conduct themselves in such a manner as to be a credit both to themselves and to their school." "For Example, a student’s freedom of speech is limited in many important aspects here at our school. Speech, either written or oral, contrary to the Roman Catholic faith, the teachings of the church or the directives of the local Bishop or Ordinary is prohibited. as is any other speech which is contrary or disruptive to the philosophy and purposes of our school." That's nasty, but it does occur to me that it's easy enough to get round with the internet. Use a handle that's in no way associated with your real name, connected to an email address that's different from your usual personal email and registered under a false name, don't post anything (name, location, photos, etc.) that could allow you to be identified and if you're posting something to do with your personal circumstances be as vague as you can be and still get the point across, and to be on the safe side use an anonymising proxy. Agreed that schools shouldn't be allowed to dictate what students do out of school time and off the premises, though.
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Post by Thejebusfire on May 9, 2009 14:15:54 GMT -5
The day after the prom: The student saunters into the principle's office and pulls a skimpy little pair of panties out of his pocket. He smiles and caresses his cheek with the silky fabric for a moment before dropping them on the principle's desk. He gives a little wink and a mock salute; "I'll go clear out my locker now. Caio." and then waltzes out the door and down the hall singing "I'm singing in the rain". ;D I would so do that if I was him.
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Post by gadfly on May 9, 2009 14:46:17 GMT -5
This absolutely ridiculous legalism on the part of the school just illustrates, while there are many fine Baptists out there, why I will probably never go to a Baptist church, join a Baptist congregation, or send any kids I might have to a Baptist-run school. Many Baptists just seem to have this legalistic attitude (not to mention pride) that I find to be personally very off-putting. A sort of "we are the ONE TRUE CHURCH BECAUSE WE ARE SEPARATED FROM THE WORLD" mentality.
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Post by Old Viking on May 9, 2009 16:12:50 GMT -5
The goal of fundyism is to regulate -- insofar as it's possible -- the lives and activities of all members at all times.
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Post by carole on May 9, 2009 21:12:42 GMT -5
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh, I can't believe that as much as I hate it - and I really really do - I am going to have to agree with the school on this one. The boy signed a letter or cooperation at the beginning of the school year. He was aware of the rules, however stupid they may be. If he didn't agree with the rules then he shouldn't be going to a Christian school. His stepfather may not agree either, but they made the choice to sent the boy to a Christian school so they had to know there would be rules like this. I mean really what did they expect? Parents send their kids to this kind of school because they don't want their precious little one exposed to all the dirty heathens that run rampant in public schools. The officials at the religious school are going to set rules according to what the majority of the parents want - which is their child sheltered from these kinds of activities. If they don't want their son to follow these rules then they shouldn't send their son to this school, and the boy shouldn't have signed that letter at the beginning of the school year if he didn't agree with the rules. These parents are no different than parents of kids in public schools that tell the kids they only have to follow the rules they like - and believe me there are parents who have that attitude. I may not agree with the rule personally, but if the boy agreed to follow the schools rules - no matter how stupid it may be - then his parents should make him do so. You can't pick and choose which rules you follow, and again if he doesn't want to follow their rules he shouldn't be going to school there. Personally I would have never sent my child to a religious school and this is one of the reasons why. I will decide where my child is allowed to go and with whom and not the school principal.
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Post by brendanjd on May 9, 2009 21:48:50 GMT -5
Carole, I don;t think any of us are disputing that technically the kid is in the wrong. The main point we are trying to discuss is the idea that private religious schools maintain the right to expel students for insanely overblown infractions and things that they are guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.
I admit the kids and his parent should have known better. However, I will side with them every time over a fundamentalist insane asylum.
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