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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jun 26, 2009 18:26:21 GMT -5
That seems to be all members they banned. An epic "fuck you."
Headache, your name is oddly fitting.
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Post by lonelocust on Jun 29, 2009 8:13:43 GMT -5
I just wanna back this up for any of you lurkers out there in the audience or watching at home, we don't hate you, neither do we hate fetuses or want to turn your children gay. We just want to encourage you to come over and engage in some sort of interaction with us, because we don't like this whole mexican standoff thing we have going anymore than you do. Unless you do like it, in which case I guess we like it less than you. We don't like it is the main point I'm trying to get across her. I would like to dissent and put forth that I do sort of want to turn their children gay. Which is to say, I think that 10% or so of their children ARE gay, and I want those children to grow up and be comfortable with who they're attracted to, to be "out", to have meaningful and satisfying and enjoyable homosexual sex with the partners of their choice, and to not feel bad about any of that. I want to create a world where their children feel like they can do that no matter what their parents think of it.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Jun 29, 2009 8:54:01 GMT -5
The thing Fundies always say is, "We want to raise children with moral values."
The thought that their kids might be gay & that they might be hurting them apparently never enters their minds.
Moreover, the same Fundies aren't clamoring to shove heterosexual relationships into the closet. They aren't saying, "No, no, people can't get MARRIED! Goodness, our kids can't be EXPOSED to that!"
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Post by lonelocust on Jun 29, 2009 23:56:57 GMT -5
Well, the fundies generally don't believe that anyone *is* gay. They define homosexuality by behavior rather than attraction. (There is no such thing as a gay virgin in fundie land by extension. My mother put forth when I was 16 that I "wanted to be" a lesbian for example. I couldn't "be" queer having never had sex with anyone.) By the usual fundieland definitions, encouraging someone to act on their feelings, if their feelings involve same-sex attraction, is turning them gay.
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Post by ironbite on Jun 30, 2009 0:03:00 GMT -5
Aren't you pansexual anyways?
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Post by lonelocust on Jun 30, 2009 0:06:04 GMT -5
Me personally? Yes, but I identified as a lesbian when I was 16. I don't think that changes the substance of my statements about the average American Christian fundy not believing in sexual orientation as something that people "are".
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Post by ironbite on Jun 30, 2009 0:15:40 GMT -5
Well there you go. For me, I don't really like to define a person by who they're fucking. Just don't seem right now does it?
Ironbite-wish other people could see that.
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Post by lonelocust on Jun 30, 2009 1:58:55 GMT -5
Uhm, clearly. I was sharing how I believe fundies think, and a personal anectdote (not incidentally the sum of my reasons for said belief on how fundies think) that was related. Am I misreading you as disagreeing with me on some point?
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Post by ironbite on Jun 30, 2009 3:16:26 GMT -5
Possibly.
Ironbite-don't feel bad....alot of people do.
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Post by lonelocust on Jun 30, 2009 4:35:08 GMT -5
If it makes me feel bad, I will express that. I attempt to not be passive-aggressive about emotional responses. So, in that vein, FYI, I find it irritating that you ascribe emotion to me a la "feeling bad" when I request information. In this case, if you were disagreeing with me, I wanted to know on what point so I could address it. If you were not, I wanted to know that so I would not try to re-express a point that you did not actually disagree with. So, if yes, what was the point on which you were disagreeing, and if no, could you say so? I will interpret further non-specifics as a no.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 30, 2009 8:48:36 GMT -5
I'm just so honored that out of everyone here they chose me, of all posters. ;D And you guys know what this means- CELEBRATORY CAKE! Well, it's wedding cake. But there's a lot of it, so NOMNOMNOM. NO - we should celebrate with a traditional atheist KITTEN ROAST!
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Post by canadian mojo on Jun 30, 2009 9:00:27 GMT -5
If it makes me feel bad, I will express that. I attempt to not be passive-aggressive about emotional responses. So, in that vein, FYI, I find it irritating that you ascribe emotion to me a la "feeling bad" when I request information. In this case, if you were disagreeing with me, I wanted to know on what point so I could address it. If you were not, I wanted to know that so I would not try to re-express a point that you did not actually disagree with. So, if yes, what was the point on which you were disagreeing, and if no, could you say so? I will interpret further non-specifics as a no. I'd just like to point out that you're having a conversation with the tin iguana; it's not liable to make much sense.
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Post by Maryland Bear on Jun 30, 2009 11:33:49 GMT -5
we're not having constant drunken orgies of course not. I stay sober for orgies.
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Post by ironbite on Jun 30, 2009 11:42:38 GMT -5
If it makes me feel bad, I will express that. I attempt to not be passive-aggressive about emotional responses. So, in that vein, FYI, I find it irritating that you ascribe emotion to me a la "feeling bad" when I request information. In this case, if you were disagreeing with me, I wanted to know on what point so I could address it. If you were not, I wanted to know that so I would not try to re-express a point that you did not actually disagree with. So, if yes, what was the point on which you were disagreeing, and if no, could you say so? I will interpret further non-specifics as a no. I'd just like to point out that you're having a conversation with the tin iguana; it's not liable to make much sense. Tin iguana eh? Also in my defence I'm in alot of pain. Whatever sense I might be making is going right out the window due to my back being in such pain. Ironbite-I WANT MY HAPPY PILLS!
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Post by wmdkitty on Jun 30, 2009 14:07:55 GMT -5
I'd just like to point out that you're having a conversation with the tin iguana; it's not liable to make much sense. Tin iguana eh? Also in my defence I'm in alot of pain. Whatever sense I might be making is going right out the window due to my back being in such pain. Ironbite-I WANT MY HAPPY PILLS! (((((Ironbite))))) *passes the bong*
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