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Post by Paradox on Mar 12, 2009 18:23:48 GMT -5
Wonder if we can get our money back for Alaska? Only if we can get the wolves out of there first. =\ Sarah is working on that as we speak.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Mar 12, 2009 20:40:31 GMT -5
"Yes, I love how the man possibly getting raped in prison should make the woman he knocked up comfortable to not resent the child everyday of it's existence as a constant reminder of the worst moment of her life."
Yeah, what was that noise? That sounds disturbingly similar to the MRO "rape is just sex" argument. Meh. She says we don't care about babies, but holy shit, I don't care what you consider an unborn fetus, calling a victim of a crime evil for not wanting to deal with the consequences of their assailant's choices "evil" is just callous.
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Post by ldm on Mar 14, 2009 20:43:59 GMT -5
I remember a several years ago I was watching some fundie channel (I used to watch those channels for laughs), and they were having some sort of teen forum, where they were discussing a 13 year old rape victim who wound up pregnant. I think it was made up, as most of that fundie scenario crap always is.
There were two points to the discussion, first of all whether she "enticed" her attacker, because she was wearing a cheerleading uniform, in other words blaming the victim.
The second point was that the family doctor strongly advised an abortion, because her body was underdeveloped, and carrying a baby to term then going through labor and delivery could have severe medical consequences, including destroying her chance of having children as an adult. Naturally everyone took the "pro-life" stance.
What really pissed me off though was when one boy, about 16, stood up with his chest all puffed out with holier-than-thou righteousness and said "If my sister were raped, I'd want a niece or nephew".
I wanted to reach through the TV and throttle him.
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Post by Armand Tanzarian on Mar 14, 2009 23:27:46 GMT -5
Everything you need to know about the pro-life-or-else movement:
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Mar 15, 2009 0:10:09 GMT -5
Fundies probably think that medical professionals just want to kill babies. They think that God can do no wrong, and they don't believe in evolution, so naturally, it doesn't EVER occur to them that a woman can carry a baby before she can actually go through with the pregnancy.
That doesn't excuse them, of course, I'm just thinking that maybe, in their ignorance, they don't even realize how much danger these [already living] girls are in.
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Post by Undecided on Mar 15, 2009 1:14:42 GMT -5
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Post by MozMode on Mar 15, 2009 1:37:48 GMT -5
I remember a several years ago I was watching some fundie channel (I used to watch those channels for laughs), and they were having some sort of teen forum, where they were discussing a 13 year old rape victim who wound up pregnant. I think it was made up, as most of that fundie scenario crap always is. There were two points to the discussion, first of all whether she "enticed" her attacker, because she was wearing a cheerleading uniform, in other words blaming the victim. The second point was that the family doctor strongly advised an abortion, because her body was underdeveloped, and carrying a baby to term then going through labor and delivery could have severe medical consequences, including destroying her chance of having children as an adult. Naturally everyone took the "pro-life" stance. What really pissed me off though was when one boy, about 16, stood up with his chest all puffed out with holier-than-thou righteousness and said "If my sister were raped, I'd want a niece or nephew". I wanted to reach through the TV and throttle him. That's horrible. It's so sad how these idiots would rather stick to their insane, ignorant values than save the life of some young girl, or atleast keep her from suffering permanant damage.
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Post by wmdkitty on Mar 15, 2009 15:41:02 GMT -5
I remember a several years ago I was watching some fundie channel (I used to watch those channels for laughs), and they were having some sort of teen forum, where they were discussing a 13 year old rape victim who wound up pregnant. I think it was made up, as most of that fundie scenario crap always is. Children are raped every day, you know. It's not so "out there" that a 13y/o would be raped. (Though I suspect many of the "details" of this specific case *were* either exaggerated or entirely falsified.) Well, shit, maybe if she'd been wearing a burqa... </sarcasm> Seriously, no woman ever, EVER "asks for it", in regards to rape. I don't care if she was naked and doing cartwheels down the main street, she WAS NOT "ENTICING" HER RAPIST. (Yes, I realize that everyone here "gets" that. I just needed to vent.) Christfags have an amazing capacity for placing blame everywhere but where it belongs. Hubby beats the shit out of you? You must have said/done something to "make him" do it. Raped? She was asking for it, with that miniskirt! Molested as a child? Well, you obviously invited the molestation! (As if a child even understands sex, much less invites that kind of violation of body and trust!) And if you catch one of THEM doing something wrong, you get (from the perp) "the DEVIL made me do it", and from his fellow Christfags, "Oh, but he's not a TRUE Christian!" They never place the blame with the perpetrator! You mean the ANTI-WOMAN stance. The doctor was spot on, and any idiot who thinks a child -- a CHILD, FFS! -- is capable of carrying and giving birth to another CHILD needs to be beaten severely with the CLUEBAT. I just don't understand how anyone could push for a young girl to have a baby *now*, when, at BEST, it would cause severe physical, mental, and emotional trauma. And that's on top of the trauma from the rape! That's some prime stupid, there. Hopefully, that jackass has a "mishap" with a gun, and removes his own testicles in the process. I hear ya.
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Post by MozMode on Mar 15, 2009 16:23:43 GMT -5
I remember a several years ago I was watching some fundie channel (I used to watch those channels for laughs), and they were having some sort of teen forum, where they were discussing a 13 year old rape victim who wound up pregnant. I think it was made up, as most of that fundie scenario crap always is. Children are raped every day, you know. It's not so "out there" that a 13y/o would be raped. (Though I suspect many of the "details" of this specific case *were* either exaggerated or entirely falsified.) Well, shit, maybe if she'd been wearing a burqa... </sarcasm> Seriously, no woman ever, EVER "asks for it", in regards to rape. I don't care if she was naked and doing cartwheels down the main street, she WAS NOT "ENTICING" HER RAPIST. (Yes, I realize that everyone here "gets" that. I just needed to vent.) Christfags have an amazing capacity for placing blame everywhere but where it belongs. Hubby beats the shit out of you? You must have said/done something to "make him" do it. Raped? She was asking for it, with that miniskirt! Molested as a child? Well, you obviously invited the molestation! (As if a child even understands sex, much less invites that kind of violation of body and trust!) And if you catch one of THEM doing something wrong, you get (from the perp) "the DEVIL made me do it", and from his fellow Christfags, "Oh, but he's not a TRUE Christian!" They never place the blame with the perpetrator! You mean the ANTI-WOMAN stance. The doctor was spot on, and any idiot who thinks a child -- a CHILD, FFS! -- is capable of carrying and giving birth to another CHILD needs to be beaten severely with the CLUEBAT. I just don't understand how anyone could push for a young girl to have a baby *now*, when, at BEST, it would cause severe physical, mental, and emotional trauma. And that's on top of the trauma from the rape! That's some prime stupid, there. Hopefully, that jackass has a "mishap" with a gun, and removes his own testicles in the process. I hear ya. No, odds are that little shit is the future of the Republican party. Like a little Mini-Fundie.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Mar 15, 2009 16:30:10 GMT -5
I thought this at first, but it's okay! Really! I read something like this in a Chick tract, and everything works out if you just have faith in Christ!
...Sorry about that, my brain stopped working for a minute there. Coincidentally, I seem to have written "Jesus loves you" for all of the answers to my homework, and soiled myself.
(Bear with me if that first paragraph doesn't wind up in a box, I'm not sure how to use quote tags yet.)
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Post by wmdkitty on Mar 15, 2009 21:31:04 GMT -5
I thought this at first, but it's okay! Really! I read something like this in a Chick tract, and everything works out if you just have faith in Christ! ...Sorry about that, my brain stopped working for a minute there. Coincidentally, I seem to have written "Jesus loves you" for all of the answers to my homework, and soiled myself. (Bear with me if that first paragraph doesn't wind up in a box, I'm not sure how to use quote tags yet.) ::giggle-snort::
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Post by m52nickerson on Mar 16, 2009 9:21:46 GMT -5
Well we know how well abstinence only programs in Alaska did...........perfect reason we should all listen to these people.
Yes folks that is sarcasm.
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Post by gotpwnt on Mar 16, 2009 20:17:24 GMT -5
Quote# 60440 [On Sarah Palin Explains Why Women Should Be Forced To Bear Their Rapists' Babies] "Actually no you don't because the rapist gets at least 20 years in prison. You get nine months of a natural process that you can endure. He doesn't have to live with a forced birth, but he does have to live with forced anal rape in prison. See, all you can think about is yourself. You are selfish to think of only your wants, and you're evil to disregard an innocent child's needs AND rights." I'm mad enough to spit. I loathe these people SO MUCH. And I knew a woman who died from pregnancy-related complications (along with the fetus), so no, it's NOT something everyone can "endure". Just reading that quote made me feel like I need to shower.
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Post by adoylelb90815 on Mar 17, 2009 16:28:25 GMT -5
Unfortunately, there are some fundies who believe that if a girl or woman doesn't die trying to fight off a rapist, she's at fault because she wasn't killed while trying to defend her virginity. Sometimes, they pass around a licked cupcake or chewed gum in young women's(teen) classes to show that if you lose your virginity even through rape, you're like the licked cupcake or gum.
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Post by headache on Mar 17, 2009 16:36:08 GMT -5
You have to be mentally retarded to pay attention to Sarah Palin and her stupidity.
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