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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 10, 2009 23:51:01 GMT -5
advent there was a link by Ib i believe and i read it about a Christian gamer who even stated that in some manual of the game a list of name to use or something. Give me that list and i will tell you which ones are demons. In other words, you don't know. Fine, I'll start listing the major characters. ~Protagonists~ Cloud Strife Zack Fair Aerith Gainsborough Barret Wallace Cait Sith Yuffie Kisaragi Vincent Valentine Cid Highwind From Crisis Core: Angeal Hewley ~Antagonists~ Sephiroth Rufus Shinra Hojo Scarlet Heidegger From Dirge of Cerberus: Weiss, Nero, Rosso, Azul, Shelke From Crisis Core: Genesis Rhapsodos, Hollander ~Other~ Chaos Lucretia Crescent And, just for the Hell of it, some of the summoned monsters: Hades Odin Typhoon Knights of the Round Bahamut Or you could dig up this link. Whatever you do, I'm looking for you to account for BOTH the names AND the actions that are "demonic."
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Post by Vene on Nov 10, 2009 23:51:46 GMT -5
Magni, how about this for your choice? After all, this is both.
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Post by ironbite on Nov 10, 2009 23:52:41 GMT -5
mag if you were given the choice what would you choose. lets stop the transgender talk and lets talk about choice. Didn't zie already give zir choice? Ironbite-or can you not read?
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Post by John E on Nov 10, 2009 23:54:08 GMT -5
John what the heck are you even talking about? Out of all the people here who oppose me it is you who really gets on my nerves. You always say prove it and then you make up this test that you won't even go through. For one i will not do this test on the grounds that it is not me that wants the proof but it is you. So in wanting the proof you need to do the leg work as well. If you want me (or anyone else here) to believe you, they YOU are the one who needs to do the leg work. I'm not doing the test because I'm not the one claiming to have God given powers. Heck, even if everything you say is true, it wouldn't work for me anyway, because I'm not a Christian and my prayers wouldn't be sincere. The only thing me doing the test would serve to do it make me MORE of a skeptic. Is that what you want? Again I say: Doing this test could be a big help for you in bringing people to Christ. The only reasons for you not to want to do it are because you're afraid it won't work or because you don't want to bring people to Christ.
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Post by yojetak on Nov 10, 2009 23:54:38 GMT -5
mag if you were given the choice what would you choose. lets stop the transgender talk and lets talk about choice. If you were given the choice between having no arms or no legs, which would you choose? None of this "i want all of my limbs talk." It's a choice.
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Post by Magnizeal on Nov 10, 2009 23:54:59 GMT -5
mag if you were given the choice what would you choose. lets stop the transgender talk and lets talk about choice. There is no choice. I am neither and I am both. If I were giving the choice, I would choose to have a vagina, a dick, and possibly small breasts. I would choose to go out as a man one day, a woman the next day, and wearing a male suit and a skirt the third day. I am not a man, I am not a woman, I am a something, I am a mirl, this is what I am. Really, it is very simple.
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Post by nautical999 on Nov 10, 2009 23:57:05 GMT -5
john
again i decline
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Post by nautical999 on Nov 10, 2009 23:57:31 GMT -5
advent i will go over the list tomorrow
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Post by nautical999 on Nov 10, 2009 23:58:20 GMT -5
Magni, how about this for your choice? After all, this is both. why does it have to be both
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Post by davedan on Nov 10, 2009 23:59:20 GMT -5
Nautical,
were you suggesting that you have already prayed and that if John flips the coins, God will intercede (without John doing anything other than flipping) to make them all heads?
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Post by John E on Nov 11, 2009 0:00:04 GMT -5
Which is it then, scared or don't want people to find Jesus? Anyway, I'm off for the night. If you decide you want to bring people to Jesus and get up the nerve to try, let me know.
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Post by ironbite on Nov 11, 2009 0:00:25 GMT -5
BECAUSE THAT'S THE CHOICE MAGNI CHOSE!
Ironbtie-out of zir own free will I might add...FREE WILL GOD GAVE ZIR!
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 11, 2009 0:01:15 GMT -5
Naturally. And Nautical, you will be sorely disappointed. I know the origins of nearly all of the characters' names. To the best of my knowledge, there isn't a single name in FFVII that comes from a Christian demon, or even any kind of Christian figure. The best you could possibly do is point to Pagan figures, in which case, I get to laugh at you for your xenophobic "other cultures' religions are demonic!" angle.
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Post by nautical999 on Nov 11, 2009 0:01:38 GMT -5
davedan
Yes if it is Gods will for him to see His power in this way and to prove to him that he does exist then yes he would intervene. But of course John would say it was just coincidence
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Post by Vene on Nov 11, 2009 0:01:50 GMT -5
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