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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Nov 7, 2009 10:37:24 GMT -5
...black slavery. www.wsoctv.com/news/21534555/detail.htmlBasically, a historian giving elementary school children a tour of the Latta Plantation singled out three black children in the group to "play slaves": Wow. Yeah, he didn't ask for volunteers, he just told the three kids to step up and started treating them like slaves. I hope he didn't really treat them the way a plantation owner would, though I'm sure he left the whip out of it. I hope. I hate that they titled the article the way that they did ("Children's Slavery Lesson Upsets Charlotte NAACP Leader"); a LOT of people appear to be upset about this, but whatever, the only one who matters is the NAACP leader, right? And if you look at the comments below the article, people are screaming "GET OVER IT! RACISM IS ONLY AN ISSUE IF YOU MAKE IT AN ISSUE!"
No fucking duh. If you let crap like this go unchallenged and let the kids think it's okay to treat people like that, that it's okay to be treated like that...
If you want to demonstrate this sort of thing, wouldn't it be a little better/less scarring to hire grown adults to demonstrate it for them? Or better yet, show them and then ask them how they think it would've felt to be treated that way, no matter their skin color?
Worst part of it? The poll shows that 61% of the people who read and voted on the article agree with the historian. Fuck you, Charlotte.
(If this thread doesn't belong here, please move it; I hesitated to post it in the Politics forum because it doesn't seem to fit) |
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Post by Trevelyan on Nov 7, 2009 13:53:22 GMT -5
Once again asshats attempt to rationalize away their behavior by saying, "LOL dat's not how you play!" As if it really matters if you intended to do something racist when the thing being done is clearly racist. Here's an interesting experiment; Lets go to the zoo and then have three kids who identify as hardcore christians get in with the lions. We'll put them in a cage inside the lion den so that they can't actually be eaten, but make it so the lions can stalk around them and roar at them. Then we can get them out and ask what it was like to be feed to the lions by the Romans. Let's see how that goes down.
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Post by peanutfan on Nov 7, 2009 14:01:44 GMT -5
The closest we got to this when I was in school was when we were studying the Civil Rights Movement. One day, the teacher had us all pick pieces of paper from a hat as we were walking in; those with slips of a certain color were seperated adn made to sit seperate from the rest to help demonstrate the adverse effects of discrimination.
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Post by wackadoodle on Nov 7, 2009 14:36:59 GMT -5
Well the black kids being singled out and treated like shit IS historically accurate, but theirs a reason we read about slavery and not reeinact it.
Though this story isn't registering as racist, just stupid. Of course I went to a school were we spent all of last period every single friday telling nigger jokes with the teacher so I have a very high bar for what counts as racist.
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Post by Old Viking on Nov 7, 2009 15:53:32 GMT -5
The teacher is an insensitive jerk, and I feel sorry for the black kids, but this incident is of no consequence. Note it and move on.
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Post by ironbite on Nov 7, 2009 16:21:21 GMT -5
Stupidly Racist?
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Post by skyfire on Nov 7, 2009 16:42:05 GMT -5
Someone's probably going to be fired over this.
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Post by King Leopard on Nov 7, 2009 16:48:56 GMT -5
Who cares about increasing the empathy of white children to the suffering of a massive group of people grounded solely on the color of their skin?
IT'S HISTORICALLY ACCURATE!!1
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Post by meshakhad on Nov 7, 2009 18:11:50 GMT -5
The closest we got to this when I was in school was when we were studying the Civil Rights Movement. One day, the teacher had us all pick pieces of paper from a hat as we were walking in; those with slips of a certain color were seperated adn made to sit seperate from the rest to help demonstrate the adverse effects of discrimination. They did that with my class in third grade. Students with yellow wristbands were superior, those with green were inferior. I got a yellow wristband, but that didn't stop me from recognizing the unfairness of segregation and going on a campaign of destruction, ripping down signs and tearing off wristbands. I actually didn't get in trouble - my teacher recognized that I was doing this because I honestly believed it was the right thing to do, and I imagine it had something to do with the experiment being cut short before we even got to classes. |
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Post by The Lazy One on Nov 7, 2009 20:29:31 GMT -5
The closest we got to this when I was in school was when we were studying the Civil Rights Movement. One day, the teacher had us all pick pieces of paper from a hat as we were walking in; those with slips of a certain color were seperated adn made to sit seperate from the rest to help demonstrate the adverse effects of discrimination. Yeah, we did this in fourth grade. If you got an orange piece of paper you got to do special things like get candy and go to recess five minutes early. If you got a pink piece of paper you didn't get any candy, went to recess five minutes late, and had to clean the blackboard. The next day, the roles were switched. |
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Post by Lady Renae on Nov 8, 2009 13:58:18 GMT -5
The closest we got to this when I was in school was when we were studying the Civil Rights Movement. One day, the teacher had us all pick pieces of paper from a hat as we were walking in; those with slips of a certain color were seperated adn made to sit seperate from the rest to help demonstrate the adverse effects of discrimination. They did that with my class in third grade. Students with yellow wristbands were superior, those with green were inferior. I got a yellow wristband, but that didn't stop me from recognizing the unfairness of segregation and going on a campaign of destruction, ripping down signs and tearing off wristbands. I actually didn't get in trouble - my teacher recognized that I was doing this because I honestly believed it was the right thing to do, and I imagine it had something to do with the experiment being cut short before we even got to classes. So you reacted to a Civil Rights demonstration by rallying against injustice and protesting? Please tell me somebody with a sense of humor gave you an A on something... |
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Post by mistermuncher on Nov 8, 2009 18:33:27 GMT -5
Frankly, I hope someone does get fired over this. There are two options. They're either racist or too fucking thick to be allowed to teach children. I honestly don't see how either position is remotely defensible.
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Nov 8, 2009 19:13:02 GMT -5
The closest we got to this when I was in school was when we were studying the Civil Rights Movement. One day, the teacher had us all pick pieces of paper from a hat as we were walking in; those with slips of a certain color were seperated adn made to sit seperate from the rest to help demonstrate the adverse effects of discrimination. This brings back a film shown in every Psych course I've taken, the Blue Eyes experiment. Those were some pissed off, downtrodden kids; even 25 or so years later, it had a strong impact on the now-grown children. Why not keep using these examples that you guys have brought up to teach the kids? Why choose 3 black kids out of a predominately white class to demonstrate it? "Historically accurate", maybe, but so was slave whipping; did the historian use a whip on them, then? Let's go for all-out accuracy now! |
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Post by The_L on Nov 8, 2009 19:56:41 GMT -5
The closest we got to this when I was in school was when we were studying the Civil Rights Movement. One day, the teacher had us all pick pieces of paper from a hat as we were walking in; those with slips of a certain color were seperated adn made to sit seperate from the rest to help demonstrate the adverse effects of discrimination. See, that's not racist--you were randomly selected. Selecting students on the basis of race to pretend to be slaves, IS. |
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Post by canadian mojo on Nov 8, 2009 19:59:32 GMT -5
They did that with my class in third grade. Students with yellow wristbands were superior, those with green were inferior. I got a yellow wristband, but that didn't stop me from recognizing the unfairness of segregation and going on a campaign of destruction, ripping down signs and tearing off wristbands. I actually didn't get in trouble - my teacher recognized that I was doing this because I honestly believed it was the right thing to do, and I imagine it had something to do with the experiment being cut short before we even got to classes. So you reacted to a Civil Rights demonstration by rallying against injustice and protesting? Please tell me somebody with a sense of humor gave you an A on something... I assassinated a rival leader in a history role playing exercise in high school. The teacher spent the rest of the class chuckling to himself. I got an A. |
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