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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 8, 2009 11:11:46 GMT -5
By the way, according to BMI, I'm obese. Pardon the pirate outfit. The only full body pictures I have of myself are in costume. Please don't die, John. Global warming is bad enough as it is >.<
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Post by mistermuncher on Apr 8, 2009 11:23:05 GMT -5
Don't go vegan. Start smoking.
Edit for WTF.
Sky, if you're twice that weight, and about the same BMI, that'd make you seven and a half foot tall. SRSLY?
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 8, 2009 11:31:48 GMT -5
Don't go vegan. Start smoking. Edit for WTF. Sky, if you're twice that weight, and about the same BMI, that'd make you seven and a half foot tall. SRSLY? And now back to "Attack of the Giant Mormon" *flees in terror*
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Post by John E on Apr 8, 2009 11:51:31 GMT -5
332, if he's indeed 2x166, which would make his height about 7 1/2 feet tall for a BMI of 28.5. I'm guessing Sky isn't actually 7 1/2 feet tall, but just misunderstands what BMI is and how it's calculated.
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Post by mistermuncher on Apr 8, 2009 11:52:16 GMT -5
Maths. It Delivers.
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Post by MaybeNever on Apr 8, 2009 12:22:40 GMT -5
I'd actually go so far as to say that the BMI is useless. My cousin's a personal trainer, and at one point he gave me a full workup including body fat analysis and so on. Apparently my weight at 0% body fat would be about 220 pounds - nothing but lean tissue, meaning organs, bones and muscle - and I'm 6'4", which would be mildly "overweight". Since a more realistic and healthy weight would be about 240 or 250, in theory I'll never be anything but obese. Unless I quit carrying around all these pipe organs, I guess.
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Post by Vene on Apr 8, 2009 12:29:40 GMT -5
The BMI is just an indicator, nothing more and nothing less. It's only a small part of an overall health assessment. There are other ones out there, for body shape, there's the hip to waist ratio. There's also cholesterol tests and blood pressure and resting heart rate for cadiovascular health. These are much more important than having a little bit of pudge on your gut. The problem isn't that the BMI is useless, it's that it's too overused. It is way too easy to use that as the sole indicator of health. Nevermind that it can't take into account things like body shape, sex, and body fat %. It's not meant to do anything more than give a rough idea of your health.
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Post by katsuro on Apr 8, 2009 13:44:57 GMT -5
I'm 5 foot 8-9ish. When I was skinny enough to have a waist of under 30 inches my BMI was around 26-27 (20-25 is supposed to be ideal weight). Apparently being so thin that no shop sells clothes small enough for you means you're a tad overweight.
I wouldn't get caught up in the whole BMI thing, it's a bit bollocks.
And also, I personally don't see anything wrong with the weight you're at now, judging from your pics.
BTW, I used to weigh 27 stone, so I know a bit about being fat lol.
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Post by MozMode on Apr 8, 2009 13:56:45 GMT -5
I seem to recall you're still 16. If so, then I'm not sure going full-on vegan is such a good idea. While your body is growing you need a lot of nutrients that adults don't need, and are difficult to find in vegan diets. So just make sure whatever diet you choose suits you and not a 35-year old. Agreed. Humans are, by nature, omnivores. During the years in which a person is developing (which is through the early 20s) they need meat products to supplement their diet in order to develop to their fullest. This is because meat products contain certain amino acids and other nutrients that are hard to locate elsewhere short of a steady regimen of supplements. If you're legitimately considering going vegan, you'll need to speak to both a doctor and a nutritional specialist. I'm going to have to agree with Sky on this one. If you are truly 16, I would consult a doctor or nutritional specialist first. If you truly truly want to cut out meats, I would consider doing it absolutely as slowly as possible. I'm 23, and went Vegetarian/semi-vegan (I dont eat eggs or cheese, but drink milk)and even that was hard. I take a multi-vitamin daily and an extra Vitamin C supplement just in case. In the first couple of weeks you'll feel pretty good but you can't just eat salads, you know? Anyway-I'm rambling. Check with a doctor first
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Post by Old Viking on Apr 8, 2009 14:15:07 GMT -5
Must ... have ... my ... dead ... animal ... flesh.
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Post by MaybeNever on Apr 8, 2009 14:19:06 GMT -5
Must ... have ... my ... dead ... animal ... flesh. Remember, kids: they'd eat yours if they could. And don't say cows are herbivores, because anyone who's stared into those soulless ruminant eyes knows that cows are just biding their time. All it takes is a moment's inattention... [The BMI]'s not meant to do anything more than give a rough idea of your health. My point is that it doesn't seem to do even that. I'd liken it to taking a sick person's temperature with the back of one's hand - possibly some sort of indicator, but very subjective and almost any other method would be more effective. So I guess it's not quite "useless", but one might as well throw out his thermometers in favor of the hand test as use the BMI.
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Post by antichrist on Apr 8, 2009 17:21:43 GMT -5
I won't give weights, but I've had my BFP done (body fat percentage). At 25% body fat, which is where a middle aged woman should be aproximately, I would still be classified as obese according to the BMI. Oh, and a friend of mine who is Japanese descent, should be the same BMI as me (we're the same height) even though her bone structure is so small she wears a size 3 ring and buys clothing at a teen shop. Something to do with having the bone structure of a midget line backer. Here's an interesting list of who's classified fat and obese. You'd be amazed how many athletes are obese according to the BMI. It includes Bush, who has been labeled the "Fittest President Ever". www.consumerfreedom.com/games.cfm/ID/1Also, study after study has been done that shows that someone who is overweight and exercises is healthier then someone who is skinny but sits on the couch. But I believe these studies are ignored because they don't make beautiful people. It's much better to spend thousands of dollars on hundreds of surgeries. Then you'll be pretty. This rant brought to you by someone who has body issues
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 8, 2009 17:33:37 GMT -5
This, of course, just covers physical fitness and doesn't even touch the whole mental issue...
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Post by Jedi Knight on Apr 8, 2009 17:52:05 GMT -5
As others have said, don't go vegan, and I would certainly never go for a raw food vegan diet. It is hard to get enough calories on such a diet. You'll lose a lot of muscle, and muscle tissue is active, it burns calories. I'd try to clean up my overall diet if I were you. Avoid refined starches and sugars, make sure you get your proteins, fibers and good fatty acids. Try to get most of your carbohydrates from fruit and especially vegetables. Exercise. Concerning BMI, I agree with others, as a measuring unity it is pretty much useless. The best measure is actually subjective: Do I look good naked?
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Post by mistermuncher on Apr 8, 2009 18:25:11 GMT -5
BMI is bollocks, mostly, and so is weight as a lone figure. Sure, as a basic guide for the averagely built, averagely framed, averagely boned fella in the street, it has some value. Outside those parameters, though, it's largely useless.
Ed Byrne put it best. You don't need a BMI to tell you you're fat. A mirror can do that, with the added advantage that it also lets you know if you're an ugly fucker as well.
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