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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Oct 14, 2010 18:49:34 GMT -5
They were also fighting over who would be the first one to go up: Which none of them wanted to be. The kindness and generosity of all of this is what makes it truly remarkable. The whole world was rooting for these guys, literally hundreds of people were working together to help them, and the miners all handled their situation with grace and bravery. What's even more touching is that two of the miners got engaged to their girlfriends while trapped down there. One wrote a letter to his GF asking her to marry him, and the other had proposed prior to being trapped but was declined because the GF felt they weren't ready yet as a couple; as a result of all of this, she realized how much she loved him and accepted his proposal while he was down there. It's great to see that all of this ended happily. Yay for good news.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Oct 14, 2010 19:11:47 GMT -5
Somebody pointed out that this is one of the few pieces of good news that the world can rejoice over. I'm sure there are a handful of environmentalists (that put the mental in that particular word...) who think the miners should have remained trapped down there for the evil act of mining coal. I never said I had faith in humanity, now did I?
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Post by Radiation on Oct 14, 2010 20:30:29 GMT -5
My mom was telling yesterday as this happened that the people down there were claiming that they saw heaven and God as well as the devil and hell. I tried explaining to her that it was probably a psychological affect, that is, mass hysteria. I am pretty sure that being trapped that long would mess with your mind.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Oct 15, 2010 0:35:14 GMT -5
Yeah, it's called cabin fever.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Oct 15, 2010 0:37:40 GMT -5
Considering how long they were trapped down there, I'd say that it's a bit of a miracle that their mental state wasn't worse.
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Post by Jodie on Oct 15, 2010 1:01:28 GMT -5
69 days is a long time to be trapped in a small space and endure great physical and psychological stress. Unfortunately a few of them have likely developed some level of PTSD.
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Post by Caitshidhe on Oct 15, 2010 9:52:44 GMT -5
It's extremely fortunate that they spent MOST of those 69 days in contact with the outside world, otherwise they a) wouldn't have survived, and b) if they DID their mental state would be significantly worse. The little capsules they sent down with webcams, messages from aboveground, FOOD, WATER, medication--they were a lifeline.
I guess that's one good thing about being a pessimist: imagining how bad things COULD be makes you appreciate what IS.
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Post by Alexandria on Oct 15, 2010 11:08:37 GMT -5
Somebody pointed out that this is one of the few pieces of good news that the world can rejoice over. I'm sure there are a handful of environmentalists (that put the mental in that particular word...) who think the miners should have remained trapped down there for the evil act of mining coal. I never said I had faith in humanity, now did I? It was a copper/gold mine, not coal.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Oct 15, 2010 17:04:22 GMT -5
Semantics.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Oct 15, 2010 22:30:57 GMT -5
69 days is a long time to be trapped in a small space and endure great physical and psychological stress. Unfortunately a few of them have likely developed some level of PTSD. Yeah, I'm not writing off the profound mental effect this will have on them. They'll need counseling, and many of them will likely develop phobias, nervous tricks, etc., which is really tragic. However, the fact that they're still in touch with reality and didn't completely lose it down there is still something that we can appreciate. As Cait said, the social contact with the outside world was crucial in keeping them alive. The food and water was important for physical needs, of course, but the social contact almost certainly kept them from devolving into chaos. Psychological needs are just as important as physical needs. If they hadn't been found, things would have turned out... horrifically. I keep imagining a Donner Party scenario, cranked up to 11.
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Post by scotsgit on Oct 19, 2010 12:08:51 GMT -5
69 days is a long time to be trapped in a small space and endure great physical and psychological stress. Unfortunately a few of them have likely developed some level of PTSD. Yeah, I'm not writing off the profound mental effect this will have on them. They'll need counseling, and many of them will likely develop phobias, nervous tricks, etc., which is really tragic. However, the fact that they're still in touch with reality and didn't completely lose it down there is still something that we can appreciate. As Cait said, the social contact with the outside world was crucial in keeping them alive. The food and water was important for physical needs, of course, but the social contact almost certainly kept them from devolving into chaos. Psychological needs are just as important as physical needs. If they hadn't been found, things would have turned out... horrifically. I keep imagining a Donner Party scenario, cranked up to 11. It probably wouldn't have got that far - mines tend to (even well-regulated ones) have more than their fair share of nasty gases in the place such as Carbon Monoxide. They would more likely have suffocated (which they thankfully didn't) before cannibalism set in.
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