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Post by theamericancowboy on Apr 10, 2009 18:57:36 GMT -5
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Post by ausador on Apr 10, 2009 19:02:39 GMT -5
Symbolically speaking what do you think this picture means then?
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Post by theamericancowboy on Apr 10, 2009 19:05:11 GMT -5
That Bush is an idiot. This is how men greet in each other in the homo-infested Middle East, but he still shouldn't have participated in that custom. But, the fact that Bush was an idiot doesn't mean that Obama gets a free pass, either.
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Post by The Watcher on Apr 10, 2009 19:12:21 GMT -5
Symbolically speaking, when you bow to a monarch and kiss his hand, you are swearing allegienace to that monarch and demonstrating that your country is a vassel state to his kingdom. By what law? Who says? Does this require any intent element? If so, how do you know Obama has it? What does being a "vassal" of another country entail?
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Post by crazalus on Apr 10, 2009 19:17:38 GMT -5
You'll get no argument from me about that! Fweeeee? What colour is the sky on your planet??
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Post by Vene on Apr 10, 2009 19:18:10 GMT -5
That Bush is an idiot. This is how men greet in each other in the homo-infested Middle East, but he still shouldn't have participated in that custom. But, the fact that Bush was an idiot doesn't mean that Obama gets a free pass, either.
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Post by discoberry on Apr 10, 2009 19:51:09 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling 6 years ago you were worshiping the ground our George the II walked on...By the way if you wanna get technical (since you are obviously an expert on interpreting royal ettiquette) we have vassals of our own puerto rice, samoa, IRAQ, except we call them protectorates not vassals or principalities.
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Post by A. Sapien on Apr 10, 2009 20:08:07 GMT -5
Did you guys hear about Barack Obama bowing to the Saudi Arabian king, and then kissing the king's hand? Do you guys have any idea what this means? Symbolically speaking, when you bow to a monarch and kiss his hand, you are swearing allegienace to that monarch and demonstrating that your country is a vassel state to his kingdom. Obama has just pledged the United States as a vassel state of Saudi Arabia... and most of us don't even know it! Hell, even Saudi nationals don't do this - the Saudi king actually banned his subjects from kissing his hand in 2005, since it's demeaning and dehumanizing. And then our president, who has always spoken with foreign dignitaries on equal terms, goes and demonstrates that he is a servant of Saudi Arabia. What's up with that? He was trying to be respectful. It was a cultural fuckup, at worst case scenario (with the kiss), but that hardly means he's sworn allegiance to Saudi Arabia. Actually. Now that I've SEEN the video. There is ZERO evidence he kissed the king's hand. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&feature=relatedSo that point is completely moot anyway. He bowed in respect. Not the right website to be homophobic at, cap'n.
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Post by antichrist on Apr 10, 2009 20:18:36 GMT -5
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Post by m52nickerson on Apr 10, 2009 22:42:28 GMT -5
Did you guys hear about Barack Obama bowing to the Saudi Arabian king, and then kissing the king's hand? Do you guys have any idea what this means? It means that our President was showing that he respects that King. ....maybe if this was the thirteen hundreds. Most of realize that you could not be any more wrong. It is dehumanizing to kiss someones hand. Perhaps you should get off your horse and learn just a little bit about the rest of the world. Again nothing is up with this. It was a sign of respect nothing more.
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Post by nuitarihw on Apr 10, 2009 23:07:36 GMT -5
That Bush is an idiot. This is how men greet in each other in the homo-infested Middle East, but he still shouldn't have participated in that custom. But, the fact that Bush was an idiot doesn't mean that Obama gets a free pass, either. seriously, can you prove you're not a troll after this statement? You realize that they stone, kill, or arrest homosexuals in the middle east? The leader of Iran declared that there were no homosexuals in Iran at all. They are about as far from homosexual as possible. Also, how does showing respect to a foreign dignitary in any way degrade America? In fact, how does showing respect bring anything bad at all? If anything people are more apt to like you when you don't offend them purposefully because you are arrogant.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 10, 2009 23:11:20 GMT -5
That Bush is an idiot. This is how men greet in each other in the homo-infested Middle East, but he still shouldn't have participated in that custom. But, the fact that Bush was an idiot doesn't mean that Obama gets a free pass, either. seriously, can you prove you're not a troll after this statement? You realize that they stone, kill, or arrest homosexuals in the middle east? The leader of Iran declared that there were no homosexuals in Iran at all. They are about as far from homosexual as possible. Also, how does showing respect to a foreign dignitary in any way degrade America? In fact, how does showing respect bring anything bad at all? If anything people are more apt to like you when you don't offend them purposefully because you are arrogant. Psst, don't say anything that alarming to the American Cowboy, he'll spit his drink all over his clean, white Klan robes....
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Post by dasfuchs on Apr 11, 2009 5:07:46 GMT -5
That Bush is an idiot. This is how men greet in each other in the homo-infested Middle East, but he still shouldn't have participated in that custom. But, the fact that Bush was an idiot doesn't mean that Obama gets a free pass, either. seriously, can you prove you're not a troll after this statement? You realize that they stone, kill, or arrest homosexuals in the middle east? The leader of Iran declared that there were no homosexuals in Iran at all. They are about as far from homosexual as possible. Also, how does showing respect to a foreign dignitary in any way degrade America? In fact, how does showing respect bring anything bad at all? If anything people are more apt to like you when you don't offend them purposefully because you are arrogant. Don't ask him to prove he's not, the thread just being here among the three other threads on this issue says "trollin' for shits" already. Lock the thread, issue a warning, problem solved.
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Post by JonathanE on Apr 11, 2009 8:47:02 GMT -5
Did you guys hear about Barack Obama bowing to the Saudi Arabian king, and then kissing the king's hand? Do you guys have any idea what this means? Symbolically speaking, when you bow to a monarch and kiss his hand, you are swearing allegienace to that monarch and demonstrating that your country is a vassel state to his kingdom. Obama has just pledged the United States as a vassel state of Saudi Arabia... and most of us don't even know it! Hell, even Saudi nationals don't do this - the Saudi king actually banned his subjects from kissing his hand in 2005, since it's demeaning and dehumanizing. And then our president, who has always spoken with foreign dignitaries on equal terms, goes and demonstrates that he is a servant of Saudi Arabia. What's up with that? You realize that the U.S. has been a servant of Saudi Arabia for at least 35-odd years, right? Why else would the Republicans have lifted the flight ban on September 11/12, 2001 to allow Bin-Laden's family to leave the U.S. while the World Trade Center site was still smoking? It's called diplomatic courtesy, when visiting a foreign country, to observe local customs regarding royalty. Bowing to the British monarch has been frowned upon in the past, but more for historical reasons than for any other. Is this the best you got, Cowpie?
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Post by wackadoodle on Apr 11, 2009 9:30:28 GMT -5
The troll finally migrated from the quote comments.
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