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Post by Shane for Wax on Jan 7, 2011 14:37:58 GMT -5
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Post by Thejebusfire on Jan 7, 2011 16:51:17 GMT -5
That's just horrible.
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Post by MaybeNever on Jan 7, 2011 21:25:11 GMT -5
That will teach him a lesson of some kind possibly.
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Post by Tiger on Jan 7, 2011 21:34:37 GMT -5
That will teach him a lesson of some kind possibly. "Life's a bitch and then you die."? |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jan 7, 2011 21:35:42 GMT -5
How dare he be an Arab! But in all due seriousness... wtf  |
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jan 7, 2011 21:51:33 GMT -5
I haven't a clue, zachski. The kid has NO IDEA why he's being detained. The whole situation is just... wtf.
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Post by MaybeNever on Jan 7, 2011 21:57:41 GMT -5
That will teach him a lesson of some kind possibly. "Life's a bitch and then you die."? Or "don't have a brown-person name." |
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Post by Kit Walker on Jan 7, 2011 22:21:55 GMT -5
I can see where he'd get a bit more scrutiny than most, have recently visited countries that contain a very...prominent shady element. Detaining him, torturing him, and essentially denying his citizenship is unconscionable, full stop.
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Post by booley on Jan 8, 2011 3:06:32 GMT -5
Wait, a country is holding someone without charge or trial, torturing them and put them on a no fly list so they can't get home? Why does that sound so familiar? Dark humor aside, this is horrible and I hope this guy gets back home. Torture stays with you forever. |
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Post by xotan on Jan 9, 2011 7:28:03 GMT -5
The odd thing is that the US doesn't seem to have exercised any muscle on behalf of one of its citizens. Why? It almost looks as though this young man 'special-rendered' himself for proxy toture. Please President Bush, the eyes of the world are on you! Do something!
Oh... not Bush? Well, he set the pattern.
The big question on this (to mix cultural expressions): is this young many really kosher? Has it been established that he is genuinely not a recruit for for an organisation that might pose a threat? If this is clear, then what are his representatives in his home state doing? If they are doing nothing then they need to be reminded that they are the representatives of this young man and should be active on his behalf.
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Post by MaybeNever on Jan 9, 2011 17:52:35 GMT -5
The big question on this (to mix cultural expressions): is this young many really kosher? Has it been established that he is genuinely not a recruit for for an organisation that might pose a threat? If this is clear, then what are his representatives in his home state doing? If they are doing nothing then they need to be reminded that they are the representatives of this young man and should be active on his behalf. The onus is absolutely 100% not on Mr. Mohamed to prove that he is not a threat. Rather, it is on the government, whether of the US or Kuwait, to prove that he is before they detain him. Detention because they have unsubstantiated fears is without question antithetical to democracy, and torture is absolutely in all cases whatsoever a gross violation of human rights, period. Nothing about this situation is remotely acceptable. |
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Post by malicious_bloke on Jan 9, 2011 18:38:20 GMT -5
You're all assuming that the countries in question give a shit about human rights. That said, the definition of human rights gets increasingly blurred as more gooey-eyed idiots get a hold of it. Yep, forget preventing torture and solving world hunger, internet access and "making sure specially selected demographics never have anything said to them which upsets their sensivities" are far more important from a legal standpoint. |
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Post by ixolite on Jan 10, 2011 16:35:55 GMT -5
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Post by Thejebusfire on Jan 10, 2011 16:52:37 GMT -5
That will teach him a lesson of some kind possibly. Yeah, who does he think he is being a brown person. In all seriousness, his family got him a lawyer to work on his behaf. Hopefully something can be done. |
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Post by MaybeNever on Jan 10, 2011 17:23:33 GMT -5
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