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Post by Passerby on Jul 23, 2011 1:15:13 GMT -5
Such a tragedy. This bastard had better rot in prison for the rest of his life. Except that there have been multiple terrorist attacks orchestrated by Caucasians since 1995, jackass. Nah. See when a white patriot defends his country from Cuban immigrants or Muslim clerics it's called doing his American duty. Sorry. I now realize that is probably unfair to Americans as it sounds like they have a monopoly on psychopaths with double-standards. I'm only familiar with examples close to home. Ah. I know. The Quebecois separatist movement extremists. Also white and terrorists. I gave those Freepers and the Moonbats a piece of my mind. Too bad somebody on ironically-named-republic already took my usual handle. Damn it. I hope their Passerby is the kind of guy to get banned from the site. Ha. Banned in one post. I'd be proud of myself if it didn't just prove they were utterly unwilling to look at how quickly their horror turned to cheering.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 22, 2011 23:59:12 GMT -5
Wrong end tag XP I wouldn't be surprised if these people believed that this guy's been framed by muslims or something like that. Heaven knows I'm not going to make an attempt to find out. I've had too much rage lately, anymore and my heart will just explode out of my chest, then explode itself and paint a picture of rage on my computer monitor. While they're not saying it's a frame up it is apparantly all going according to plan. My apologies to your cardiologist and whoever cleans up the gibs.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 22, 2011 23:36:16 GMT -5
I think this threat's entirely domestic. The attacks targetted the Labour Party specifically. First the leader, then a youth rally. Don't know about the bomber, but the shooter was identified as tall, blonde, and 'Nordic looking' (well fucking duh, it's Norway.) The guy they have in custody is a native Norweigan, and was disguised as a police officer. The survivors of the massacre at Utoeya described being caught in a crossfire when it started. 80 dead. There had to be several of these sick bastards, all disguised. And by some analysis: all Norweigan to blend in with the police force. The guy they have in costody was stopped and ID'd. His uniform and his badge might have been real. Terrifying implications, if all the shooters were similarly disguised. Why are they even looking for a foreign connection on this one? Just look for the first extremist conservative to rally a bloodthirsty crowd and demand their party take power because the 'soft' socialists would rather make nice than protect their people. Then you'll have your terrorist masterminds. Edit again: Fucking Moonbattery. They're taking this bullshit zillablog.marezilla.com/2011/07/jihad-in-norway.html as news. And they already KNOW the guy that did it was white, a native Norweigan, and a right wing extremist. They're still going on about the Muslims and calling it a socialist conspiracy. Fucking fucking FUCKING MOONBATTERY
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Post by Passerby on Jul 22, 2011 9:13:00 GMT -5
I don't know. There seems to be an almost selective quality to it. The women I play with do sound like women. The guys I play with who aren't griefers sound more or less like you expect a young man to. But the leading causes of furious cursing fits? Squawking trash-talkers that attack their own teams and try to exploit glitches to make games unplayable? They sound like Betty Boop on a bender. It's comedic how similar their voices are to a particularly foul-mouthed cartoon stereotype of a 4 year old girl.
It's like there's smart technology that identifies them and warns every other player that these guys are dicks by modulating their voices to a high pitched warning cry.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 22, 2011 7:19:36 GMT -5
I find the girl gamers sound significantly less like girls over the headset than the average male online gamer, particularly the griefers like DON INFAMOUS and that one guy in every match who never shuts the hell up.
Do they huff helium and spend half their time listening to Alvin and the Chipmunks or something? It is unreal, I'm hard pressed to find 6 year olds who sound like that and these idiots are in their late teens.
Props to Femme Fatales of Fragging.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 22, 2011 6:39:59 GMT -5
It's working now, thank you.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 22, 2011 4:14:39 GMT -5
I have a slightly different problem. The comment box is there, but the submit comment button is greyed out and unclickable. If it means anything there's two new options I've never seen before: Edit Quote and Review Quote. What's going on exactly?
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Post by Passerby on Jul 21, 2011 20:11:08 GMT -5
Forgiving someone personally doesn't mean I want them to escape the consequences for their action. It just means that I forgive them. That said a bullet in the face is a lot to forgive. I'm impressed.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 21, 2011 20:08:28 GMT -5
An especially sadistic choice if the only options available are to endanger the things he wishes to proctect or to take an hand in destroying them in an entirely different fashion.
If all you have to choose between is the lesser of two evils, choose your dignity instead. While he leaves himself and others open to the wrath of Germany's enemies, by joining a resistance movement against his own government he chooses to stop the systematic murder - even worse than the Soviet's revenge bender because it would continue even in peacetime - and in the process redeems previous inaction hopefully inspiring his countrymen to do the same and makes himself distinct from the decisions the Nazi party made. Sabatoge forcing surrender and the dissolution of the government would be ideal, as the invading armies have no excuse to blow things up if the fight's over. While seeing a large number of Germans willing to take up arms against their common enemy may not be enough to deter the Soviets from their retribution he has made a stand for his beliefs and as long as he is alive he and his resistance group still has a chance to fight and hold the Red Army back from the non-combatants even if it amounts to a suicidal defense strategy. He doesn't have to be part of Germany's official army to fight off a foriegn invasion. Even if that fails, rebuilding after a tragedy is infinitely easier than convincing a country to make a drastic change in prosperity. By joining the Wehrmacht he is compromising those beliefs in return for nothing more than extra firepower and the percieved safety of those he cares about at the direct expense of everybody else around him, quietly accepting the line of "Germany first" that brought them to the point of no return and can no longer wash his hands of involvement.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 21, 2011 19:36:00 GMT -5
This Teen Escort Service business can't possibly be legal. Bursting into someone's home without warning at 2 in the morning forcibly abducting them without so much as presenting credentials? Ringing the doorbell and telling a kid you're their ride will more than suffice, so long as their parents tell them "Yes I hired them to bring you to school. No they're not going to rape you... probably." I don't care how much authority a parent has over a child, if they were to handcuff and drag their children to the dentist there'd be hell to pay.
Even the damned name alludes to something less than legit.
What would have happened if the kid was like me at her age? I slept with knives under my pillow since I was 10 (long story) and some Americans advocate having freaking guns in the nightstands of their 14 year olds.
In all it seems like a fairly appropriate introduction to the equally reprehensible 'school' she was sent to. Systematically implemented verbal abuse, 'therapists' that couldn't possibly have earned a license to practice and have no notion of confidentiality outside of their victim's - I mean patient's - agreement not to discuss what happens at the camp, lying to parents about religious indoctrination, students hurting themselves and possibly attempting suicide only to be roughed up and thrown in solitary confinement, badgering rape victims, attempting to instill racist and sexist worldviews along with the idea that homosexuals are filthy. Fucking PRISON is a healthier environment and people send their kids to these places cut off from outside contact for the express purpose of brainwashing?
Xandir developed an acute mental disorder staying there, I can't help but think that place broke more than one poor soul and shaped them into a serial killer.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 21, 2011 9:25:12 GMT -5
If money were a concern at all it would be a trivial feat to levy fines against anyone whose blood comes up as unusable, especially if they can be accused of attempting to donate diseased blood knowingly and sued for damages. They'd be cash cows rather than lost time and supplies.
I'm thinking this is the same thing as when they originally stored the blood from black donors seperately from whites. Dumb, scared, easily swayed sheep think they can 'catch' black or gay like an unscreenable disease.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 21, 2011 8:07:25 GMT -5
While I was mistakenly speaking of the slippery slope into sheer insanity rather than the domino theory being defined I actually do have historical precedent on those grounds as well.
I said you personally wouldn't be phased by murder on a genocidal scale so long as the victims were caught snatching purses beforehand if you are as sociopathic as you appear to be. Engaging in such murder is rarely out of the question in such a case either but we're talking about things that can be proven. What I implied was that adopting the outlook that human life has differing values on a societal level would inevitably lead to genocide and I stand by that. I cited Rwanda and famously racist KKK as examples of real life wide scale disregard for certain imposed 'classes' of people that killing was of no consequence. I could also add the Romans to the list with their killing of slaves as entertainment, slaves that were not only captured in war raids but former petty thieves and the like.
Just to be clear: The Romans took your stance that crooks ain't no thang to gut while helpless and threw their famous circuses, decried today as some of the most utterly inhuman displays of bloodsport ever devised as hundreds of thousands were hideously butchered for laughs. The Romans were all around dicks to everyone else too, not just their slaves or the surrounding countries they went on to enslave.
As for the final criteria of sociopathy I thought it was already clear. While I have no way of proving you physically attack your 'acceptable target group' whom you say we shouldn't care if they die while at the mercy of store clerks that shoot them five times while incapacitated nor have I implied you've committed a clearly criminal offense, but the very act of reducing the value of their lives and advocating the removal of their rights in such a way is a violation of their rights in and of itself. That you can't see this only speaks further ill of your mental state and outlook.
Hit the Mod button if it means that much to you Art, but don't dare think for a moment you're speaking to an idiot that skims what you say. While questioning your very sanity is undeniably rude of me your position is not so solid as you've convinced yourself.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 21, 2011 7:09:29 GMT -5
Oh. I took it as the slippery slope into madness with a spreading facet of a singular mentality when I used the term rather than a ridiculous chain of impossibly related cause and effect though I suppose hypothetically applying that mindset to the people around Art Vandelay and asking what their reaction would be to seeing that level of cold-bloodedness acted out by others in an earlier post could be seen as that.
Um, oops my bad?
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Post by Passerby on Jul 21, 2011 6:28:06 GMT -5
I'm using the dictionary definition, which you've highlighted for our convenience and seem unaware that much of what you've said appears to fit the criteria.
You have, in so many words, just stated that the commision of a crime (armed robbery in this case) all but negates the rights of the one commiting said crime reducing the value of their lives and consequences of their death to nil.
In the pharmacy example and the situations I've put forward it was no longer a matter of a threat being posed, you simply considered the criminal unfit to live. You went as far as state flatly it was murder, but a murder of an almost inconsequential degree that warrants no jail time. "The way I see it, as long as the murderin' is confined to burglars and such then I don't really think it deserves jail time" was your exact words. You never even specified that they had to be dangerous, and just said it was "No big deal, really." I'd classify that as a pervasive disregard of rights. Once they cross that line, it appears there's no going back with you. They become a sub-class of humanity.
Just about forgot the slippery slope mention. For a sociopath the slide into total disregard, possibly open contempt, for those considered beneath or useless to them is actually an inevitability for the very nature of sociopathy. While sociopathic behavior can be instilled at a societal level, seen in ethnic cleansings and the like, it can be reconsidered. There's a historical tendency for it to snowball to the point where society collapses and forces the re-evalutation but there's always room to change. However an honest-to-goodness sociopathic individual is another matter entirely. They aren't merely accustomed to seeing the world in a cold light of variably weighted moral dilemmas, they are mentally incapable of seeing a fault to their logic and think there's something extremely wrong with people that don't share the same view. They are literally unable to care about a situation they feel they have no stake in. While they might not go commit murder themselves, they sure ain't going to cry when somebody else they don't really give a hoot about dies horribly. Even if it's right in front of them.
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Post by Passerby on Jul 21, 2011 5:55:43 GMT -5
It's only a fallacy to minds that don't work on the level of a sociopath. Devaluing life has an actual track record of growing into a casual disregard for the lives of others so long as you believe they are beneath you to the point where genocide doesn't make you blink. (Blacks and Jews to the KKK, Hutu's to the Tutsi, every living thing to Fred Phelps, slaves to their owners, and on a more identifiable level anything that stands between a mugger and his score.) What we're probing to see is if you're a sociopath. Since you're of the mind that anyone who poses a momentary threat to you becomes no big deal to kill even when they no longer pose a threat to you your mindset may fall into this category. To the sane person, the slope doesn't even exist. There's only the stark and easily identifiable edge overlooking the realm of madness to leap into. To someone with a sociopathic mentality? Suddenly there is a slope and you're sliding to crazyville. I joke about my sanity, but yours is downright worrisome
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