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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 21, 2011 21:40:36 GMT -5
Which is weird, because it's pretty much a fact that food service jobs are often done by high school students and college students, which pretty much makes it the opposite of a long term career. Add in that the pay is low, the benefits are non-existent, and the possibility of advancement is poor (but not impossible) that leads to most people leaving when they get a chance. I worked with one old dude who had been there for years. So it doesn't really come as a surprise to me.
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 21, 2011 21:40:53 GMT -5
The fact that some people manage to make a long-term career out of fast food in no way affects the fact that few people do or even try. Or that it is even a good idea unless you can make it to a management position. And there are only so many management positions available.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 21, 2011 21:44:13 GMT -5
The fact that some people manage to make a long-term career out of fast food in no way affects the fact that few people do or even try. Or that it is even a good idea unless you can make it to a management position. And there are only so many management positions available. I agree, actually. Just hoping I could clear up the matter of confusion :V
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Post by sadhuman on Nov 21, 2011 22:33:58 GMT -5
Personal experience it is, just pointing out that calling people delusional for thinking they can make a career out of food service is a bit silly. There are a lot of differences between Australia and America and the companies that work there but people can do make careers out of it. Why stigmatise them? That's a serious question, why make food service nothing but what you do if you can't do anything else?
Not to mention food service is a huge field, I was specific to mention fast food since that is what I know and worked in. But food service would include every restaurant, cafe, chef and cook out there. Just a touchy subject for me since I enjoyed my job and after years of high school trying to work out what I would do I found it (I enjoy serving customers, even the bad ones). Only to get people use that job as a joke to insult people.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Nov 21, 2011 22:36:47 GMT -5
...The point, sadhuman, is that there IS a very high turnover rate in fast food. And for fast food companies to use "lack of permanence" as a means to deny someone a job is delusional and/or an excuse.
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Post by Vene on Nov 21, 2011 22:38:55 GMT -5
Personal experience it is, just pointing out that calling people delusional for thinking they can make a career out of food service is a bit silly. There are a lot of differences between Australia and America and the companies that work there but people can do make careers out of it. Why stigmatise them? That's a serious question, why make food service nothing but what you do if you can't do anything else? Wrong way around, employers are delusional to think they're likely to get a long term employee. Way to read words that were never said.
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Post by sadhuman on Nov 21, 2011 23:06:38 GMT -5
Seems I read employee as employer...oh well sorry for going off like that, just used to people using the whole industry as the joke end of the stick.
And that statement would be true most of the time, we had our own idea of what long term meant though. Part of the interview process was to see if they planned on hanging around for at least a year and we weeded out anyone who just wanted a holiday job.
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 21, 2011 23:14:49 GMT -5
And that statement would be true most of the time, we had our own idea of what long term meant though. Part of the interview process was to see if they planned on hanging around for at least a year and we weeded out anyone who just wanted a holiday job. In this economy, even the world’s most overqualified applicant has a chance of sticking around a year or more.
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Post by trike on Nov 22, 2011 2:01:19 GMT -5
So, at this point in the recession I'll say that I regret going to college. Seriously, I am "overqualified" for most of the jobs available in my area (which is 80% retail from the job postings I've been seeing). I wish I could get a job flipping burgers or waiting tables. Hell, a toy store where I applied for a seasonal position (one that I have held before) turned me down for being overqualified...the main difference between this year and last? Some ten months of Americorps, which I had done in part because I couldn't find a job.
Over half of the people I graduated college with are unemployed or underemployed. Most of them have moved back in with their parents or are on some sort of assistance. My husband and I are some of the lucky ones because we have enough to pay rent for the next two months but not enough to pay the bills or eat.
I'm a fucking hard worker. I've never missed a day of work or been late and I've been working since I was 13 (family business). Having a fucking chance isn't too much to ask for.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Dec 8, 2011 10:14:31 GMT -5
You, out of the Army! EDIT: or was this already posted? Can't be arsed to look through all the other pages.
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Post by N. De Plume on Dec 8, 2011 10:18:46 GMT -5
EDIT: or was this already posted? Can't be arsed to look through all the other pages. Yeah. It was already posted.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Dec 8, 2011 10:19:58 GMT -5
alright, disregard then.
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