Only in Texas... serious, read it to believe it!

[ironbite]

I think the biggest question we have to ask here is...how'd she know the lady was a lesbian in the first place? Is it true? I mean...I know DADT was just repealed but this lady seems to have been in the era of DADT.

Ironbite-even if she was, who the fuck cares?

[ltfred]

Oct 23, 2011 9:56:03 GMT -5 itachirumon said:

Oct 23, 2011 7:56:20 GMT -5 lighthorseman said:

Indeed.

And they ARE out there. Its always quite a shock to find one, too. They look like every body else.

Or they become pseudo-doctors and go into chiropractic (not all chiropractors, I just have a beef with a particular mom-and-pop practice in Campbell)

Chiropracty is one of the many forms of medical fraud. It's perfectly legitimate to assume that individual Chiropracters are hacks unless proven wrong.

[Old Viking]

Nothing makes you feel better than a semi-literate Iowa farm boy messing with your spine.

[Mlle Antéchrist]

On the Penn & Teller episode dealing with chiropractors, they interviewed some grinning idiot who proudly boasted about having "adjusted" a 4-day-old infant.

[itachirumon]

Oct 23, 2011 15:56:19 GMT -5 ltfred said:

Oct 23, 2011 9:56:03 GMT -5 itachirumon said:

Or they become pseudo-doctors and go into chiropractic (not all chiropractors, I just have a beef with a particular mom-and-pop practice in Campbell)

Chiropracty is one of the many forms of medical fraud. It's perfectly legitimate to assume that individual Chiropracters are hacks unless proven wrong.

These guys were really into their religion, they actually, last I heard, demanded all people switch to their church to continue seeing them. They had this HUUUGE water jug (the 5 gallon kind) filled with people's medications they'd gotten them to "give up" in pursuit of better health. They were like.. really into the health-food bent, that part was okay but their conservative bullshit always pissed me off. Basically, mom needing them to help her back - and really, Chiropractic is only good as a "tune up" not as "the whole she-bang" like they wanted - is the only reason I didn't report them to a medical board for defrauding their clients (and for the latter "Must be Christian" bullshit).

Well that and I didn't learn about the 2nd one until just a few weeks before I was set to leave norcal.

On the Penn & Teller episode dealing with chiropractors, they interviewed some grinning idiot who proudly boasted about having "adjusted" a 4-day-old infant.

That sounds like precisely what these fuckers would do, the whole "you can be subluxated from the moment you're born when mommy pushes you through her birth canal and it puts pressure on the back of your neck"

[Oriet]

Filled with people's medication? As in, prescribed medication? If so that is highly illegal; prescribed medication is only to be used by the person it is prescribed for, and giving it to another person, whether it is used or not, is illegal.

Oh, and Ironbite, DADT never applied to the VA, as it's a civilian agency, even though it is for use by former military personnel and their families. Being that the woman was going to the VA means that she was not dishonourably discharged, irrespective of whether it would have been from DADT or not, and as such are required to treat her the same as other hospitals and clinics do.

[lighthorseman]

Oct 23, 2011 9:56:03 GMT -5 itachirumon said:

Oct 23, 2011 7:56:20 GMT -5 lighthorseman said:

Indeed.

And they ARE out there. Its always quite a shock to find one, too. They look like every body else.

Or they become pseudo-doctors and go into chiropractic (not all chiropractors, I just have a beef with a particular mom-and-pop practice in Campbell)

Meh, I'm happy to extend it to all chiropractors. A lot of nutritionists too, and all reflexologists, homeopaths and so on.

But its the actual real health care professionals, with degrees based on evidence based practice who I am always sort of shocked to find believe weird stuff. Chiropractors, et al, all believe pure hokum, but at least with them its part of the package. But when nurses, doctors, and certain other allied HCPs come out with "teh vaccines cause teh autisms!" or pro circumcision, or any of the other weirdness I have actually heard, it always blows me away.

[priestling]

I don't hold any ill will towards chiropractors, myself. My ex's dad is a chiropractor, and he really helped me out big time when I screwed up a vertebrae in my neck. Haven't had that problem since.

... I miss medical insurance and a job though, I wish I could see a doc about my weight.

[lighthorseman]

Oct 24, 2011 0:47:06 GMT -5 priestling said:

I don't hold any ill will towards chiropractors, myself. My ex's dad is a chiropractor, and he really helped me out big time when I screwed up a vertebrae in my neck. Haven't had that problem since.

... I miss medical insurance and a job though, I wish I could see a doc about my weight.

There is some clinical evidence suggesting chiropractors CAN hlp with certain types of back and neck problem. However... a great deal more of the therapeutic benefit they claim is not supported.

[Oriet]

Thing is not all chiropractors claim it has those ginormous effects. They just happen to be in the definite minority, though, which makes finding the good, honest ones who care about the actuality of their practice hard to find.

[lighthorseman]

So, to anyone who wanted more details?

I waited in the waiting room for my appointment, and filled out all the normal check-in paperwork, which included my current menstrual cycle, as I had also been suffering pain from Endometriosis, a female disease. I included information about my medical discharge injuries, while serving active duty, and that I was suffering from severe depression and possibly PTSD. I heard my name called, “Esther.” I got up and walked toward the voice of the woman, who barely looked at me, and called me “Sir.” I followed her into her office and before I sat down, politely said, “Actually, it’s Ma’am…. My name is Esther.” She sat down and looked at me, and her first question to me was, “Are you a Lesbian?” I honestly stopped for a moment in shock, not knowing what to say. Nowhere on the form, I had just filled out, did it ask me anything about my sexual orientation. I was so confused! I answered honestly, “Yes, I am gay.”

At this point I wasn’t really sure what to think. She then began to ask me about my depression and anxiety, and I became very emotional. This was why I was there, because my depression had gotten so bad that I had had horrible thoughts of suicide previously, and knew that I needed professional psychological help. Her second question to me was, “Have you asked God into your heart? Have you been saved by Jesus Christ?” This is when I realized that I was no longer a United States veteran in her eyes, I was just a homosexual.

And it gets worse...
www.dallasvoice.com/esther-garaties-statement-1093071.html

[ironbite]

Ok so she is gay. But didn't disclose that anywhere on the form. I think I know what happened here.

The nurse is an idiot.

Ironbite-JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS GAY THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE DEPRESSED OR VICE-VERSA YOU FUCKING TWIT!

[brendanrizzo]

Even worse, from what I got from that, the nurse just assumed the veteran was gay because of the way she looked. I mean, she called her "sir" even after it was clear she knew she was named Esther...

[ironbite]

To be fair, you call female officers "sir" in the military. But once they're out, they're out.

Ironbite-also there's no such thing as an ex-Marine.

[Wykked Wytch]

As the Onion's atlas Our Dumb World put so poignantly, "Everything sucks bigger in Texas."