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Post by Tiberius on Oct 25, 2011 21:25:33 GMT -5
I eat at McDonalds when syrup of ipecac seems insufficient.
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Post by sylvana on Oct 26, 2011 4:00:33 GMT -5
I would be against a measure like this.
Cheap fast foods are one of the reasons why the American population manages to be malnourished and obese at the same time. Those who are down on their luck need to be as healthy as possible to perhaps allow them to climb out of the trouble they are in.
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Post by Runa on Oct 26, 2011 4:06:36 GMT -5
I think a good compromise would be only a certain (small, like say $5 max) percentage be allowed to be spent on junk and/or fast food. Even the poorest people deserve to have a bit of a snack or treat now and then.
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Post by lighthorseman on Oct 26, 2011 5:11:31 GMT -5
Even the poorest people deserve to have a bit of a snack or treat now and then. Indeed. |
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Post by Tenfold_Maquette on Oct 26, 2011 6:31:23 GMT -5
No, I do not agree with that. You have no goddamn clue how they really spend their money and why. Not to mention that it's pretty damn hard to find food that is completely devoid of nutritional value. It's also not your goddamn money, it is money the gov't distributes and you don't get a greater say because you have a higher income. I'm on food stamps right now, and I was raised (from infancy till about 10) on a similar program. I've also been homeless twice in my life, and I've never seen anything in terms of a "lower class" life, never mind middle. I'm not trying to give the impression that I'm lecturing the poor or trying to dictate their lives for them, and if I gave that impression I apologize. I'm really not kidding (since I do cashier work) that the majority of people on food-stamps up here in my home town do spend them on cheap, sugary shit (which we can assume they eat, because what other use can they get out of it?) that does nothing but fuck up their health. I don't think giving them access to McFood will do anything but harm to them, and I don't think it's necessary. I'm just speaking from personal experience - when my parents were raising me, spending our gov't allotted cash on pizza and fast-food burgers would've seemed like a waste; we were too damned hard-up to even consider it. I just don't, personally, see the need. |
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Post by sylvana on Oct 27, 2011 2:13:15 GMT -5
I'm really not kidding (since I do cashier work) that the majority of people on food-stamps up here in my home town do spend them on cheap, sugary shit (which we can assume they eat, because what other use can they get out of it?) that does nothing but fuck up their health. The thing is, the human body is pretty resilient and adaptive. You can survive on cheap sugary shit, but you wont be living a very healthy life. Part of the problem comes in that the cheap sugary shit is both cheap, and nice. Thus people are discouraged from eating anything healthy. It is sad, but the problem feeds itself. One can purchase more unhealthy food than healthy food if you are poor. Then because the food is unhealthy you don't feel as good and are less inclined to do your best to alleviate the poverty situation. (Example, cheap quick unhealthy food takes preference when you work all day to barely survive and your unhealthy eating leave you with no energy to actually make and eat something healthy, thus you perpetuate the cycle.) |
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Post by Vypernight on Oct 27, 2011 5:28:24 GMT -5
The people where I live try to use their food stamps on $500 wedding cakes, then get a refund in cash. I'm all for helping the needy, but there needs to be some restrictions in place.
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Post by Tenfold_Maquette on Oct 27, 2011 9:43:28 GMT -5
It is sad, but the problem feeds itself. One can purchase more unhealthy food than healthy food if you are poor. Then because the food is unhealthy you don't feel as good and are less inclined to do your best to alleviate the poverty situation. (Example, cheap quick unhealthy food takes preference when you work all day to barely survive and your unhealthy eating leave you with no energy to actually make and eat something healthy, thus you perpetuate the cycle.) Pretty much this, which is why I think adding McFood to the menu isn't maybe the best idea. I just wish we as a nation helped push the cost of good food down, or maybe offered some kind of 2-for-1 special if you buy healthy things on Food Stamps. If you make it easy to procure good food in sufficient quantity, then people will likely choose to spend their limited funds on less crappy food. |
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Post by Vene on Oct 27, 2011 9:50:42 GMT -5
The people where I live try to use their food stamps on $500 wedding cakes, then get a refund in cash. I'm all for helping the needy, but there needs to be some restrictions in place. A $500 purchase is at least 3 months worth of benefits (maximum money amount is $200, most people receive less), so that story doesn't seem quite right. |
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Post by Tenfold_Maquette on Oct 27, 2011 11:51:58 GMT -5
A $500 purchase is at least 3 months worth of benefits (maximum money amount is $200, most people receive less), so that story doesn't seem quite right. $200 per person, with 3 people contributing to the purchase. You aren't supposed to be able to return items purchased with Food Stamps (or at least EBT, which is the same thing afaik) for a cash refund, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. Whomever authorized the transaction would be risking their store's licence to process those type of transactions, but people do stupid shit all the time, if only out of ignorance. |
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Post by Vypernight on Oct 27, 2011 12:20:51 GMT -5
Trust me, I wish I was making that shit up. Certain people just seem think think it's free money to do with as they please instead of a way to help the poor get buy so they can use their money for other things.
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