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Post by caseagainstfaith on Nov 16, 2011 15:00:29 GMT -5
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vesus
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Post by vesus on Nov 16, 2011 16:48:56 GMT -5
I like 15 and 16 under the GOP cartoons. Unfortunately, I also found nonsense like this one. What a strawman. The cartoonist left out the part about the Tea Bagger being on Social Security and Medicare, and decrying government spending while enjoying the benefits of public roadways to get to their MeBagger protest and police to arrest those lazy hippies in OWS. Attachments:
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Post by foolishwisdom on Nov 16, 2011 16:54:37 GMT -5
Yeah, 2012 is going to be an...interesting year...
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Nov 16, 2011 17:09:55 GMT -5
I like 15 and 16 under the GOP cartoons. Unfortunately, I also found nonsense like this one. What a strawman. The cartoonist left out the part about the Tea Bagger being on Social Security and Medicare, and decrying government spending while enjoying the benefits of public roadways to get to their MeBagger protest and police to arrest those lazy hippies in OWS. ...the tea party is the non-violent side?    Cut for size. |
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Post by Jodie on Nov 16, 2011 17:35:39 GMT -5
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Post by ltfred on Nov 16, 2011 17:55:40 GMT -5
Regarding that Teabag vs Occupy think:
Only the Teaparty are guilty of murder. No policians have been killed by democrats this century. So teaparty- violence, OWS- no violence.
Fewer Teapartiers are employed than OWS. So Teaparty- lazy bums, OWS- employed.
Teapartiers believe they own America ("we want America back) and reject the legitimacy of any policy they don't like or president they don't vote for. OWS just wants the laws of the land applied to the banking sector. Teapartiers- sense of entitlement. OWS- no sense of entitlement.
Teapartiers believe that America's government is solely responsible for all of the ills of the Earth. OWS understands that the private sector also bears some responsibility. Teapartiers- blame America. OWS- only sometimes blame America.
OWS don't necessarily 'want more government', just better government. They actually want to roll back many government powers, like the power to assasinate, or to imprison without trial. The Teaparty wants to expand those powers. Teaparty- want big government. OWS- want good government.
Teapartiers have no argument, their claims are either wrong, lies or bullshitting. OWS has a point, Teaparty is a partisan paid-for rent-a-crowd.
Finally- the teaparty relied 100% on media welfare. Without relentless support from the conservative media, nobody would even have cared about the dozens of angry crazy people. OWS got no media attention until AFTER they'd done things. Teaparty- not self-sufficient. OWS self-sufficient.
Oh, and the last one: more Americans (rightly) hate the Teaparty than support or are neutral towards it. More Americans support OWS than hate or are neutral towards it. This means that OWS better represents the 99%.
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Post by Aqualung on Nov 16, 2011 21:01:24 GMT -5
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Post by foolishwisdom on Nov 17, 2011 2:34:33 GMT -5
;D Heh, ironic that the gif came from the Texas episode, where halfway in the episode Bob and Pat are making fun of the state. Though, I think it's safe to say Mr. Oops is the real clown here. |
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Post by Yla on Nov 17, 2011 7:53:26 GMT -5
Regarding that Teabag vs Occupy think: <snip> I suspect you took a lot of logical shortcuts in there, but I'll confine myself to the first paragraph: when, and who, has the Tea party murdered, as you claim? What does the Tea Party, a movement less than four years old, have to do with the partisanship of all political murders in in the last century? And since sentences 1 and 2 never even touch OWS, how do you draw conclusions about it? In other words: Hella false dichotomy you have there. |
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Post by N. De Plume on Nov 17, 2011 8:17:08 GMT -5
I like 15 and 16 under the GOP cartoons. Unfortunately, I also found nonsense like this one. What a strawman. The cartoonist left out the part about the Tea Bagger being on Social Security and Medicare, and decrying government spending while enjoying the benefits of public roadways to get to their MeBagger protest and police to arrest those lazy hippies in OWS. OWS = Rapes Murders Suicides?! |
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Post by Kit Walker on Nov 17, 2011 9:13:59 GMT -5
Regarding that Teabag vs Occupy think: <snip> I suspect you took a lot of logical shortcuts in there, but I'll confine myself to the first paragraph: when, and who, has the Tea party murdered, as you claim? What does the Tea Party, a movement less than four years old, have to do with the partisanship of all political murders in in the last century? And since sentences 1 and 2 never even touch OWS, how do you draw conclusions about it? In other words: Hella false dichotomy you have there. You could argue that the attempted assassination of Gabrielle Giffords and the six people killed there were a product of the Tea Party. That certainly seemed to be the feeling when it happened. This, of course, doesn't hold up to scrutiny. And he meant, or I read it as, Democrats have not killed anyone in the last decade (I.E., this [the 21st] century). Which isn't much of an achievement. |
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Post by Aqualung on Nov 17, 2011 11:40:27 GMT -5
;D Heh, ironic that the gif came from the Texas episode, where halfway in the episode Bob and Pat are making fun of the state. Though, I think it's safe to say Mr. Oops is the real clown here.  |
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Post by ltfred on Nov 17, 2011 16:14:12 GMT -5
Regarding that Teabag vs Occupy think: <snip> I suspect you took a lot of logical shortcuts in there, but I'll confine myself to the first paragraph: when, and who, has the Tea party murdered, as you claim? What does the Tea Party, a movement less than four years old, have to do with the partisanship of all political murders in in the last century? And since sentences 1 and 2 never even touch OWS, how do you draw conclusions about it? In other words: Hella false dichotomy you have there. Well the Tea Party tried to shoot 20 people in Arizona at the start of this year, on Sarah Palin's instructions. Tea Party leaders have also also been responsible for pevious political assasinations, like that of Pat Tiller (Bill O'Reilly). Glenn Beck has also ordered numerous assasination attempts on left-wing targets, most notably on the obscure Tides Foundation (which was thankfully unsuccessful, though I believe that some police may have been injured in a Beck-inspired shootout). As in the Clinton era, many right-wingers respond to the broad righty belief that Democrats are illegitimate by trying to kill either them or random people. Terrorism has massively spiked in the US. Now, OWS has not fired so much as a shot. That's because OWS is peaceful and the Teabaggers are terrorists. |
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Post by Yla on Nov 17, 2011 18:01:58 GMT -5
Well the Tea Party tried to shoot 20 people in Arizona at the start of this year, on Sarah Palin's instructions. Tea Party leaders have also also been responsible for pevious political assasinations, like that of Pat Tiller (Bill O'Reilly). Glenn Beck has also ordered numerous assasination attempts on left-wing targets, most notably on the obscure Tides Foundation (which was thankfully unsuccessful, though I believe that some police may have been injured in a Beck-inspired shootout). As in the Clinton era, many right-wingers respond to the broad righty belief that Democrats are illegitimate by trying to kill either them or random people. Terrorism has massively spiked in the US. *runs it through the ltfred-rhetorics filter* Huh. I didn't know that. You still take individual tidbits about the parties and generalize them into a trend, but in at least in this one point, your argument looks more solid. |
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