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Post by m52nickerson on Jul 10, 2009 8:32:27 GMT -5
*scratches his head* I have Vista 64 Business edition here, and I'm quite happy with what I have... I've been through far, far worse with ME for troublesome OS's, so unless I'm somehow emitting an aura that mysteriously fixes problems with Vista without me noticing, then I don't know what much of the fuss is... Of course, it could be to do with me disabling UAC. That shit's annoying as hell. Blue I have to agree with you. I love Vista and have not had any problems with it. I run Vista at home and miss it when at work on XP.
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Post by Shano on Jul 11, 2009 14:30:13 GMT -5
I also use Vista both on my laptop and my desktop. I have had no problems at all. Like none... So I have always been curious as to why people so hate it. I will upgrade to 7 as many many people say it's awsome but really don't know what the issue with Vista is.
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Post by Bluefinger on Jul 11, 2009 16:23:10 GMT -5
Blue I have to agree with you. I love Vista and have not had any problems with it. I run Vista at home and miss it when at work on XP. I've found that a lot of the problems I have with Vista are the same problems I had with XP, so in terms of user experience, there's nothing to distinguish the two. Games run stable, the GUI is a bit better, and a few nifty features over the other, but nothing that would bother me either way. If anything, my general experience has been satisfactory. Nothing that drives me nuts, but I'm not singing praises either. It works, so I'm happy. For me, that's the important bit. I do get annoyed with how it gets bloated on memory though after a few days running constantly. XP didn't really see that.
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Post by lumberjackninja on Jul 11, 2009 20:37:48 GMT -5
Rime, have you tried building your own kernel? It's not really that hold. You go through and decide what modules/drivers you want, and whether you want them linked into the kernel or separately as modules. You can significantly reduce the size of your kernel by removing the stuff you know you'll absolutely never use; being a general linux distro, ubuntu pretty much has to go with the "everything-and-the-kitchen-sink" mentality when it comes to kernel functionality.
Another thing to do is disable certain background services; the HP printer/scanner daemon comes to mind, as well as a couple others. If you are never going to print, use bluetooth, or make your machine an NFS file server, there are several background processes that don't need to be run, but do by default.
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Post by Lazuline on Jul 11, 2009 21:18:10 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_VistaMicrosoft's highest priority in designing was content protection, and making the interface pretty was second. Usability came after both of those. I don't think too many of Vista's problems are obvious to the average user right now. The high system requirements and resource use are lesser issues than they used to be, and most recent hardware drivers actually work now. Still, it's significantly more bloated than XP without any improvements that would justify that.
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Post by alwimo on Jul 12, 2009 3:10:30 GMT -5
I stuck with XP. It does what I want it to. Then I got into Linux. So far, Ubuntu is nice/awesome, but somewhat bloated (though on a 2GHz machine, you likely wouldn't notice). Vector Linux I found to have a nice, lightweight kernel with a fairly well maintained file repo. If I could make WINE work properly with 3D, it would be awesome, but that "how to" manual the 'nix heads keep crowing about seems to keep disappearing. I tried lighter kernels like DamnSmall and Tinycore, but with those, it's the equivalent of building a house without any plans, having to constantly call on "experts" to help you out with an idea of what you'd like to build. Not to mention the tools are all pretty old. The perk is those operating systems are free. In the case of those last two, it's pretty time consuming in trying to get them to do what you want them to. Sorry for the derail. Please carry on. I tried out Ubuntu 9.04 recently. For some reason, the internet was very slow with it. I want to try it out again.
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Post by mistermuncher on Jul 23, 2009 22:03:51 GMT -5
I do believe 7 is to Vista as XP is to ME/2000. "Sorry, sorry. now, three years later, here's what we *meant* to release that time".
Currently running the 7 RC/RTM. Tis very nice, and I'm assured of an Ultimate Edition Licence from a client when the time comes. A (fully) legal MS OS is a bit of a bold step for me, I must confess. There's a few horrible bugs in there (for the love of Cthon, don't try and make it autorun Foobar or Thunderbird, or its reinstall time) at present, but you kinda have to look for them. It's quick and clean, and much less annoying. Finally, I can use all those DX10 graphics I've been avoiding because DX10 meant Vista.
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Post by Rime on Jul 24, 2009 11:16:36 GMT -5
Rime, have you tried building your own kernel? It's not really that hold. You go through and decide what modules/drivers you want, and whether you want them linked into the kernel or separately as modules. You can significantly reduce the size of your kernel by removing the stuff you know you'll absolutely never use; being a general linux distro, ubuntu pretty much has to go with the "everything-and-the-kitchen-sink" mentality when it comes to kernel functionality. Another thing to do is disable certain background services; the HP printer/scanner daemon comes to mind, as well as a couple others. If you are never going to print, use bluetooth, or make your machine an NFS file server, there are several background processes that don't need to be run, but do by default. Yes, that's what Tinycore is all about, a 10MB desktop, you add the rest. The problems with Tinycore is the latest distro doesn't like to work with anything that doesn't have APIC, making it useless for the machines I want to run it on. Second, the apps I'm accustomed to using, like ALSA and WINE, seem to be quite quirky and difficult for me to set up properly. Where others have managed to get Starcraft to run smoothly, I can't get Diablo II set up when I've got it running on other distros. Vector's my baby right now. It installs smoothly, my hardware runs and it's free of a lot of bloat. I've got Vector Light running on my old 500MHz and it's running okay, but not as fast as a native Win 98 install. But now that you mention it, I'll take a peek through my install and see about removing the programs/modules I don't use.
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Post by SaveTheBales on Aug 29, 2009 9:28:26 GMT -5
I finally got a new 64-bit box with Vista a few months ago. It was a bit twitchy with some 32-bit apps.
I recently dumped 7 RC over the hard drive and love it. While there are a few tweaks required on Microsoft's (perhaps nVidia's) end, it's otherwise a kick-ass OS. What was twitchy in Vista runs fine on 7. Same hardware.
Never had a blue-screen with either.
Still, Vista can ride-off into that "Bliss" XP background for all I care. It had the look and feel of being written by retarded Ewoks.
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Post by calee022 on Aug 30, 2009 16:09:20 GMT -5
I also have had no problems with Vista (premium home edition). Once I disabled the "You moved your mouse, are you SURE you wanted to do that?" messages I am OK with it. Haven't had a single crash in since I bought the machine.
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Post by katz on Aug 30, 2009 19:17:26 GMT -5
I've been running Vista Home for about a year now and I haven't had a problem with it. It's crashed maybe once, and that was when I was testing the video card with a game I knew would probably crash it. I also don't get that many confirmation messages, and when I do, it's where I'd want one ("Are you sure you want to delete this previously hidden file that you have no idea what it does and could potentially fuck everything up?").
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Post by NoLeafClover on Aug 31, 2009 22:36:37 GMT -5
*scratches head* You didn't turn off the UAC? That's like, Vista 101...
Anyway, I've had Vista for a year now and I've had no problems with it. The problems with Vista have been greatly exaggerated by rabid techie fanboys who won't be happy if Microsoft invents an OS that shits gold bricks and Apple fanboys who don't like to admit that OS X locks up and freezes while you do simple shit like drag an icon across the screen.
No OS is perfect, but Vista is perfectly fine, and Windows 7 is shaping up to be better.
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Post by ottery on Sept 1, 2009 0:02:56 GMT -5
The first time I started my laptop with vista, it refused to play DVDs. Looked around a bit, and found out that the driver was corrupt. Had to reinstall it after the first time I booted. It's gone downhill from there, sadly... I've gotten a couple of blue screens of death, but those were few and far between. Drivers, though, are another thing. What the heck is with vista and it's aversion to working drivers?
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Post by katz on Sept 1, 2009 1:28:35 GMT -5
I feel left out. I literally have not gotten a blue screen of death on any computer (including shitty recycled public school computers) since our very first computer, which was before most desktops had a color monitor, so it was actually a yellow and black screen of death.
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Post by Bluefinger on Sept 2, 2009 5:51:00 GMT -5
*GLEE* A legal copy of Windows 7... FOR FREE! All before I officially leave univerisity. Teehee...
Thank Microsoft for literally chucking free software at students. I think I'll even pinch Windows Server 2008 whilst I'm at it...
That said, they still want students to pay for Office (though at discounted prices). Heh, no thanks, I'll stick to OpenOffice. Plus, free software for students and academic institutions? Isn't that all socialistic or something?
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