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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jul 15, 2009 19:23:15 GMT -5
You know, I don't particularly care if Martin Luther King had illicit affairs or drank or if he associated with Communists. Racists always use these things to attack MLK and try to say that because of this he shouldn't be considered a hero (I mean aside from the fact that he was black and struggled for civil rights, that is). But his goal was morally correct and he was only human. Yep, it's a giant ad hominem. It's because racists and fundies and the like are utterly incapable of figuring out what, exactly, the argument is. It doesn't matter that MLK did bad things in his life. It doesn't matter who or what Darwin believed. Nobody worships Darwin, God dammit! If Hitler had developed the Theory of Evolution, it would still be no less true than if Darwin created it. Hell, if Satan himself had done it, it would still be true.Well like I've said before, the only times we should care about the character of a scientist is when they're pushing an agenda. That being said, Charles Darwin would have been considered quite liberal in his views on race when he was alive. |
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Jul 15, 2009 19:27:09 GMT -5
...don't fit the stereotype of the inbred redneck. The scariest (and, IMO, most dangerous) ones don't. Well that's why David Duke went through all the trouble to change the image of modern racists. -Instead of dressing like one of the goons from "Deliverance", dress like a clean-cut businessman. -Instead of saying you hate blacks and Jews, say you just love white people. -Instead of saying you want to murder non-whites, say you want to repatriate them to their "countries of origin" (wherever the hell that would be considering that mankind originated in Africa) in order to avoid racial conflicts and promote peace. In no time you'll look like a sophisticated, well-educated bigot. |
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Post by The Watcher on Jul 15, 2009 22:33:27 GMT -5
Well like I've said before, the only times we should care about the character of a scientist is when they're pushing an agenda. That being said, Charles Darwin would have been considered quite liberal in his views on race when he was alive. It might serve as a reason to start digging, but if the science is sound, it's sound. |
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Post by malicious_bloke on Jul 16, 2009 14:57:26 GMT -5
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Post by plc on Jul 16, 2009 14:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by Armand Tanzarian on Jul 16, 2009 15:09:56 GMT -5
Oh dear. I wish I hadn't seen that.
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Post by The Watcher on Jul 16, 2009 15:10:22 GMT -5
He isn't saying they're not racist enough. He's saying they're not serious enough, and that the site (as horrifically racist as it is) isn't doing anything useful to help the movement. |
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Post by Tiger on Jul 16, 2009 16:11:59 GMT -5
That second picture makes me reconsider my belief in the universal right to freedom of speech.
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Post by delirium on Jul 16, 2009 22:11:02 GMT -5
Those make my inner graphic designer cry. The comics did too. I find it hilarious when white supremacists co-opt comics to spread their beliefs, considering so many comics creators were Jewish. |
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Post by plc on Jul 18, 2009 15:39:06 GMT -5
He isn't saying they're not racist enough. He's saying they're not serious enough, and that the site (as horrifically racist as it is) isn't doing anything useful to help the movement. Apparently, Niggermania is an anti-black site only. The fact that they refuse to bash Jews or other races makes them 'suspicious' in the eyes of neo-nazis and white supremacists. |
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Post by 13rats on Jul 19, 2009 13:43:24 GMT -5
Ugh. A couple days ago I, a white person of varying European descent (and with one American Indian in the mix  ), had my black friend over. He is the most polite person I have ever met, including everybody I've ever met and can remember. Yeah, everybody. I hate these people (not people like my friend, racists) because they make these horrible comments and assumptions based on something they seem to have no knowledge of. I would bet that not a one of them ever tried being friendly with a black person and if they ever did, it was with one who they offended or one who just disliked them and they assumed that every other black person was exactly the same. It's ridiculous that they all have these infights (e.g. white supremacists don't like Niggermania because they only bash blacks); they would have more influence if they were all united, though any sane person would either hate them or brush them off as crazies. But the though, "okay, these guys are racist, too, but they only hate blacks so we don't like them" is ridiculous. At least agree on that you hate blacks. I don't like the sentiment, but it's so idiotic that I can't help but want to yell at them to agree. |
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Post by tygerarmy on Jul 19, 2009 23:28:40 GMT -5
My step-grandfather is old, turns 80 this year. He is sort of racist and prejudice but it's kind of funny. He doesn't go out of his way to hate and he's tolerant of people who do not affect him. But when he meets or interacts with some of another race he is always like that person is a good *insert race here*
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Post by RavynousHunter on Jul 20, 2009 9:44:03 GMT -5
Yeah, he doesn't mean it disparagingly, its just the vernacular he grew up with. Kinda like I grew up with "bunghole" and "ass-goblin." Thank you, Beavis & Butthead.
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Post by tygerarmy on Jul 20, 2009 19:35:56 GMT -5
hehe hehe .. cool
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Post by anaseum on Jul 27, 2009 23:42:36 GMT -5
Oh wow. Have you seen their "nigger facts" page?  ...and they expect people to take them seriously! |
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), had my black friend over. He is the most polite person I have ever met, including everybody I've ever met and can remember. Yeah, everybody. 
