FRC on "ObamaCare"

[geekysock]

For reasons I won't go into detail about, I get forwarded psychotic fundie emails on a regular basis. Some are pure gold and I wish I could post them, sparkling eagle and American flag graphics and all, here. (Don't forget the praying babies!)

Anyway, I got this one forwarded from the Family Research Council regarding the new health care plan. It's full of some enchanting info such as: anti-abortion doctors will be forced to perform abortions or quit their jobs! There will be on-demand euthanasia for those deemed "unworthy" of medical care! Panic! Oh my! Exclamation point!

Enjoy.

(I'm not sure if this is the best place for this so feel free to move.)

We must defeat the Left's plan to turn their culture of death into national health care policy!

July 16, 2009 | Share with Friends Dear XXXXX, This week congress is debating President Obama's plan to seize control of your personal health care. It will produce a moral disaster that puts you and your family under the thumb of politicians and federal bureaucrats. Thanks to your support our team has been on Capitol Hill representing you. And with your renewed help today, Family Research Council (FRC) will battle back against this massive, unprecedented attack on faith, family, and freedom.

Please send a generous financial gift to help FRC launch a concrete strategy-which I'll explain in a minute, so please keep reading-to expose President Obama's immoral "Tax-and-Death" national health care plan and stop it in its tracks! Your gift will be doubled by a Matching Grant. But we still have to raise $95,000 to receive it!

Immoral? Tax-and-Death? Let me explain. ObamaCare will enable the Washington liberals to use your taxes to turn their entire anti-life agenda-from unrestricted abortion on demand to euthanasia-into national health care policy. That's moral disaster No. 1. And because federal taxes will pay for treatment and medicine, ObamaCare will give federal bureaucrats life-and-death power to decide who's worthy of care . . . and who's not. This happens every day in England . . . a "model" for the U.S.

Now, ask yourself: When you-or your child or elderly parent-need medicine or treatment, how will the government classify you: WORTHY OR NOT?

That's moral disaster No. 2. Moral disaster No. 3 is: ObamaCare's arrogant assault on religious freedom! Pro-life health care professionals will lose their careers unless they set aside their convictions and perform tax-paid abortions, dispense contraceptives, and provide "morning after" pills. Tax-and-Death. Your taxes paying for the Left's deadly agenda.

Help stop it now! You and I have a moral obligation to fight back. As people of faith, we cannot allow our government to victimize the very people God commands us to care for. And that's why FRC has developed a campaign to expose and stop President Obama's "Tax-and-Death" plan to nationalize your health care. Please send a gift today to help us raise the $600,000 we need to: Add more health care policy experts to our FRC team.

Examine the massive ObamaCare blueprint, pick apart its details, and expose all the dangers posed to your faith, family, and freedom.
Help FRC promote affordable, morally sound health care-that avoids waiting lines for your family . . . and tax-funding of sin such as abortion.
Deliver authoritative position papers that will open the eyes of Congress.
Build a broad coalition to take our family-friendly health care principles to Congress to defend your values-and your family's health care-in this urgent battle.
Flood the media with television and radio appearances and ads, newspaper op-eds, and press conferences to advance and defend your values.

The battle is fast and furious. Congressional liberals say the final ObamaCare draft will be ready for President Obama to sign this fall . . . some even want it by mid-August. So we don't have one minute to lose. Thank you for your support and prayers which make our work possible. And remember, every dollar you contribute will be matched by the Matching Grant, doubling the impact your gift has in our strategic efforts to advance your values. Sincerely,

Tony Perkins
President P.S. After making a secure, online donation, please click here and tell a friend about this important battle.

[SimSim]

What better way to raise money than to use fear and moral indignation. Too bad it's all a bunch of lies regarding the health system.

[The Lazy One]

Uh... I don't think that the health-care system ANYWHERE works that way.

[Jedi Knight]

Oh, come on, SimSim, Lazy. Can't you see the evil government is persecuting christians again? The first executions are due next week, you know. At least, that's what fundies think, if they believe their own drivel.


_{Anyway, I didn't know who Tony Perkins is, and what kind of group FRC is, so I looked it up. As many other fundies, Perkins sports that particular smug grin that makes me reach for a brick to drive through it. I guess I see what I expect to see.}

[geekysock]

Just as a side note, nearly every email this person sends me gets responded to with a Snopes link. (Usually by me, occasionally someone else beats me to it.)

I have never encountered anyone quite so willfully ignorant. She just...wants to be angry, I suppose.

[dasfuchs]

Jul 17, 2009 11:06:53 GMT -5 geekysock said:

Just as a side note, nearly every email this person sends me gets responded to with a Snopes link. (Usually by me, occasionally someone else beats me to it.)

I have never encountered anyone quite so willfully ignorant. She just...wants to be angry, I suppose.

My step ma was that way till I told her to stop sending me that crap

she thinks I choose to remain ignorant of modern issues...oh the irony

[ironbite]

Huh that letter seems familier....

Ironbite-did they copy-pasta the Prop 8 email and just edited it?

[BenderBRodriguez]

I thought FRC stood for "Free Republic Conservatives". Then I realized it's all the same shit.

[Trevelyan]

Ah yes, because it's much better to have your health care under the thumb of big business then that evil liberal government thingie we've got now.

[Rime]

Living in a country that has a "Tax and Death" system, I've got a few things to say.

First, the Canadian system is suffering from long wait times for certain conditions. It is a problem, and at present, it is being looked into.

Immoral? Tax-and-Death? Let me explain. ObamaCare will enable the Washington liberals to use your taxes to turn their entire anti-life agenda-from unrestricted abortion on demand to euthanasia-into national health care policy. That's moral disaster No. 1.

You know what's funny, Tony? Alaska and the Dakotas, the last time I checked, had an abortion rate of 14%, and it goes straight up from there. New York and California have rates of 33%. Canada has no abortion laws and the rate for the entire country is 15%. Let's never mind that most of the people who support you would likely snub those who are considering keeping to term, but need more than a couple of pamphlets about the kind of "help" they can get.

And because federal taxes will pay for treatment and medicine, ObamaCare will give federal bureaucrats life-and-death power to decide who's worthy of care . . . and who's not. This happens every day in England . . . a "model" for the U.S.

Now, ask yourself: When you-or your child or elderly parent-need medicine or treatment, how will the government classify you: WORTHY OR NOT?

As opposed to the system where you are determined worthy by whether you can pay up front for your treatment or GTFO and die? Nice move, Tony.

Moral disaster No. 3 is: ObamaCare's arrogant assault on religious freedom! Pro-life health care professionals will lose their careers unless they set aside their convictions and perform tax-paid abortions, dispense contraceptives, and provide "morning after" pills. Tax-and-Death. Your taxes paying for the Left's deadly agenda.

That's because these folks would likely snub those very same people who are in a really tough situation and only have welfare, a low-rental apartment and milk stamps to look forward to for "doing the right thing."

Help stop it now! You and I have a moral obligation to fight back. As people of faith, we cannot allow our government to victimize the very people God commands us to care for.

Yes, Tony. Why let the government victimize them when your present system likely doing such a bang-up job of it already. It would appear that all the FRC is going to change is access to abortion and contraceptives.

[kristine]

Jul 17, 2009 11:06:53 GMT -5 geekysock said:

Just as a side note, nearly every email this person sends me gets responded to with a Snopes link. (Usually by me, occasionally someone else beats me to it.)

I have never encountered anyone quite so willfully ignorant. She just...wants to be angry, I suppose.

I like finding the far left stuff (equally as inflammatory and angry) and forwarding it back.

I had a friend who always sent me all the 'god loves you' e-mails so I started responding with all my atheist or blasphemy cartoons (like the one below).

she doesn't send me those anymore

[catanon]

Jul 17, 2009 10:18:48 GMT -5 geekysock said:

For reasons I won't go into detail about, I get forwarded psychotic fundie emails on a regular basis. Some are pure gold and I wish I could post them, sparkling eagle and American flag graphics and all, here. (Don't forget the praying babies!)

Anyway, I got this one forwarded from the Family Research Council regarding the new health care plan. It's full of some enchanting info such as: anti-abortion doctors will be forced to perform abortions or quit their jobs! There will be on-demand euthanasia for those deemed "unworthy" of medical care! Panic! Oh my! Exclamation point!

Enjoy.

(I'm not sure if this is the best place for this so feel free to move.)

We must defeat the Left's plan to turn their culture of death into national health care policy!

July 16, 2009 | Share with Friends Dear XXXXX, This week congress is debating President Obama's plan to seize control of your personal health care. It will produce a moral disaster that puts you and your family under the thumb of politicians and federal bureaucrats. Thanks to your support our team has been on Capitol Hill representing you. And with your renewed help today, Family Research Council (FRC) will battle back against this massive, unprecedented attack on faith, family, and freedom.

Please send a generous financial gift to help FRC launch a concrete strategy-which I'll explain in a minute, so please keep reading-to expose President Obama's immoral "Tax-and-Death" national health care plan and stop it in its tracks! Your gift will be doubled by a Matching Grant. But we still have to raise $95,000 to receive it!

Immoral? Tax-and-Death? Let me explain. ObamaCare will enable the Washington liberals to use your taxes to turn their entire anti-life agenda-from unrestricted abortion on demand to euthanasia-into national health care policy. That's moral disaster No. 1. And because federal taxes will pay for treatment and medicine, ObamaCare will give federal bureaucrats life-and-death power to decide who's worthy of care . . . and who's not. This happens every day in England . . . a "model" for the U.S.

Now, ask yourself: When you-or your child or elderly parent-need medicine or treatment, how will the government classify you: WORTHY OR NOT?

That's moral disaster No. 2. Moral disaster No. 3 is: ObamaCare's arrogant assault on religious freedom! Pro-life health care professionals will lose their careers unless they set aside their convictions and perform tax-paid abortions, dispense contraceptives, and provide "morning after" pills. Tax-and-Death. Your taxes paying for the Left's deadly agenda.

Help stop it now! You and I have a moral obligation to fight back. As people of faith, we cannot allow our government to victimize the very people God commands us to care for. And that's why FRC has developed a campaign to expose and stop President Obama's "Tax-and-Death" plan to nationalize your health care. Please send a gift today to help us raise the $600,000 we need to: Add more health care policy experts to our FRC team.

Examine the massive ObamaCare blueprint, pick apart its details, and expose all the dangers posed to your faith, family, and freedom.
Help FRC promote affordable, morally sound health care-that avoids waiting lines for your family . . . and tax-funding of sin such as abortion.
Deliver authoritative position papers that will open the eyes of Congress.
Build a broad coalition to take our family-friendly health care principles to Congress to defend your values-and your family's health care-in this urgent battle.
Flood the media with television and radio appearances and ads, newspaper op-eds, and press conferences to advance and defend your values.

The battle is fast and furious. Congressional liberals say the final ObamaCare draft will be ready for President Obama to sign this fall . . . some even want it by mid-August. So we don't have one minute to lose. Thank you for your support and prayers which make our work possible. And remember, every dollar you contribute will be matched by the Matching Grant, doubling the impact your gift has in our strategic efforts to advance your values. Sincerely,

Tony Perkins
President P.S. After making a secure, online donation, please click here and tell a friend about this important battle.

Yep, cause wanting to give healthcare to people who can't afford it is going to kill everyone...

What douchebags.

[SimSim]

While a slight derail, it's mostly still on topic. The other day I saw a commercial on tv against the proposed healthcare plan. It had some woman from Canada, forget which province, if they even said, but she was talking about how she had a brain tumor and if she had stayed in Canada she would have died before they could operate on her. And that we shouldn't let it be done here. Way to try pry on people's fear.

[kristine]

Jul 19, 2009 8:00:48 GMT -5 SimSim said:

While a slight derail, it's mostly still on topic. The other day I saw a commercial on tv against the proposed healthcare plan. It had some woman from Canada, forget which province, if they even said, but she was talking about how she had a brain tumor and if she had stayed in Canada she would have died before they could operate on her. And that we shouldn't let it be done here. Way to try pry on people's fear.

and of course she doesn't mention that when she came down here and had it done she obviously had a lot of money to do it with.

It is true that healthcare to the highest bidder get you care faster if you rich - of course if she didn't sell her house and bankrupt her family to come down here to get it done and instead started out poor and came down here - she would be dead.