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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Oct 12, 2009 16:07:04 GMT -5
DPD how can two people be seeing the same thing and think it is there imagination. That makes no sence to me at all. Ever heard of something called "mass hysteria"? I'm not saying that's the case with DPD and her father, but it's not like it's never happened before. There's also something to the tune of retroactive interference; that is, I could have mentioned it to my dad, and the next time he saw a dark blob out of the corner of his eyes, his mind goes "Oh! Hooded figure!"
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Oct 12, 2009 16:08:22 GMT -5
rime as far as the catholic church they have done a lot of exorcisms. I do not know that much a bout them at all but i do know that they use idols and hold people up higher than they should. Therefore i do not agree with them wholeheartedly. Nautical, like it or not, Protestant Christianity stems from the Catholic church. There are a lot of things that the two share.
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Post by catanon on Oct 12, 2009 16:11:30 GMT -5
valsa that is stretching it too far. THE IRONY! IT BURNS!
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Oct 12, 2009 16:12:56 GMT -5
actually if the count needs to be precise this started quite a bit before post one on the home page i believe with aquite a bit more we are probably around 800 or. I am just glad to point out there will be no taksies on post 666 Baaaah, you have to ruin my fun. I'm just counting the thread itself, so there!
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Post by Rime on Oct 12, 2009 16:13:57 GMT -5
Then do some reading. They believe most importantly some rabbi who died at the hands of Roman soldiers was the Messiah. It's just they have a more established heirarchy than most churches as their numbers are between 500-800,000. They also have plenty of libraries and books written by those they educated.
So, do you believe in saints?
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Post by lonelocust on Oct 12, 2009 16:20:45 GMT -5
well as for everyone's information as soon as the command was given in the name of Jesus neither one spoke until after i had addressed them later on after our conversation last night. I wanted to stop the mess before it just over filled our conversation with dribble. And it worked. so don't tell me it didn't. Uhm, you can scroll back right now. There was one post by DPD and then a post by Ibby telling you to shut up rudely. That was after you telling us to stay out. Then when you had your prayer (which you're not answering on why you didn't just actually say it in your personal space instead of typing it here), you had a few back-and-forths with DPD, and then got a barrage of people telling you that doesn't fly. You had not stopped asking questions at that point.
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Post by Rime on Oct 12, 2009 16:26:10 GMT -5
Well, not before he asked his last question, but before he got his last answer. A cute illusion, to be sure.
I was also out of the conversation before he asked Jesus to shut me up. I was doing some experimentation with a bowazon.
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Post by nautical999 on Oct 12, 2009 16:26:26 GMT -5
valsa
mass hysteria is localized hysteria over a single event. This is seen by so many people that i deal with that have no idea of each other or what others say. so to stereotype it as hysteria would be wrong
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Post by nautical999 on Oct 12, 2009 16:32:49 GMT -5
as far as the saints are concerned this is what i was speaking of as the people the hold in high regards and shouldn't. They are people not God so why pray to them for your protection. or anything else.
As far as timing goes i wrote it here as well as said it in my own private space. And as soon as DPD got off i opened it back up to others by replying to them. Rime as far as a rabbi dying at the hands of the roman soldiers this would only point to Jesus who was called rabbi by many and also diesd at the hands of the roman soldiers any other they think fits this is wrong.
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Post by valsa on Oct 12, 2009 16:33:58 GMT -5
valsa that is stretching it too far. Note that I didn't say it was the case here but it is not "stretching it too far". There have been episodes where people will, without an external cause, all think they experienced the same thing. I'm not sure what DPD's situation is but it's not at all a stretch to think that, in some cases, someone mentions seeing or hearing something to another person and, having had that suggestion put into their head, the second person will start seeing/hearing/whatever it too. One of my favorite examples of this is when a group is in a scary place (graveyard, some house they think is haunted, or just somewhere with a creepy vibe to it) and one person says it's getting colder. Inevitably, someone else will agree with them, even if the temp hasn't dropped at all. Humans are very suggestible creatures. That’s partially how you get people to swallow your demon-spouting, so you should know that better than most.
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Post by nautical999 on Oct 12, 2009 16:35:59 GMT -5
rime and ironbite would have kept on going and you all know it. There is no way at all they would have stopped at that. whether or not you want to attribute it to God or not is up to you. I don't care. What i wanted to work worked.
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Post by Rime on Oct 12, 2009 16:46:17 GMT -5
as far as the saints are concerned this is what i was speaking of as the people the hold in high regards and shouldn't. They are people not God so why pray to them for your protection. or anything else. That's odd. How should we regard the apostles? Should we regard our friends as higher or lower than the apostles, especially if they aren't Christian? Excuse me? Not people of God? How exactly can you claim saints like Augustine and Francis who spent most of the time writing about their thoughts on spreading the message of Jesus not be people of God? And you, claim to have the authority of Jesus Christ with a questionaire practically ripped from a Scientology audit? Rime as far as a rabbi dying at the hands of the roman soldiers this would only point to Jesus who was called rabbi by many and also diesd at the hands of the roman soldiers any other they think fits this is wrong. I suppose I should have said: And rose from the dead three days later, claiming all the while that following him would grant forgiveness of sins? Sorry for the confusion. I'm trying to point out that Catholics worship the same Jesus you do. The exact same. EDIT: Bwahaha! I'm such a menace! Making a post at 7:55 and shortly after 10:00. And I'd keep up all night?
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Post by valsa on Oct 12, 2009 16:49:38 GMT -5
Except that I seriously doubt they all see/experience the same "demon" if it's not something they couldn't take from a common pool of cultural beliefs. I don't believe in UFOs either, even though a ton of people have described similar appearance of the aliens and practices. Our culture has a pre-determined belief of what aliens are supposed to look like and act like (mmmm... anal probing) It's the same thing with demons- our cultural already "knows" what demons are supposed to look/act like. There's also something to the tune of retroactive interference; that is, I could have mentioned it to my dad, and the next time he saw a dark blob out of the corner of his eyes, his mind goes "Oh! Hooded figure!" Ah, you got it before I did. Hear that Ibby? I want to touch the tail. Oh God, why do I want to pet the tail? Apparently you’ve got so many demons in you that you no longer need to sleep. Sweet deal, that.
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Post by RavynousHunter on Oct 12, 2009 16:50:07 GMT -5
Eeh, who cares? Just party, smoke a bowl, whatever you wanna do; its all good in tha hood.
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Post by valsa on Oct 12, 2009 16:51:22 GMT -5
Sorry for the confusion. I'm trying to point out that Catholics worship the same Jesus you do. The exact same. Oh please. Next you'll be saying that Judaism, Islam, and Christianity all worship the same God.
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