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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 10, 2009 23:32:55 GMT -5
Reasons aren't important, although I can divulge them if necessary. Here's the main points: - It's polytheistic.
- It's serious (IE more like Hinduism than the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster).
- It's a very war-obsessed & nationalistic culture.
- It's also a very gender-equal culture.
So, my question is if anyone has some suggestions of things I should include or pay particular attention to. Dogmas, gods of x, etc.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Nov 10, 2009 23:50:29 GMT -5
I would imagine basing it off Shinto would fit the bill for everything minus gender equality.
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Post by davedan on Nov 10, 2009 23:53:09 GMT -5
You should include Shee la na gigs - not sure if I've spelt that correctly. Celtic symbols of the devouring mother - they have huge vaginas that are a symbol both of birth and of death. Also they are cool.
For war obsessed and gender neutral have a look at the spartans and the laws of lycurgus.
Should have them chosen by a main god/goddess pair with the rest of the world to be subservient
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 10, 2009 23:54:02 GMT -5
Snoodles: You know, it WAS going to be rather ceremonial, so that could work. Names of deities will probably be complete asspulls, because I can't be bothered to come up with a language.
Davedan: Yeah, I'm gonna have to pass on the vagina thing. The culture was supposed to be "based" off of Sparta, Rome, etc., but that kinda fell through, due to laziness on my part. I could still look into that, though. I haven't really decided what the ultimate authority is yet. :\
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Post by davedan on Nov 11, 2009 0:04:47 GMT -5
Check them out though they are fucking cool: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheela_na_Gig The spartan women had power because they were the source of soldiers for the army and were expected to keep fit to breed healthy soldiers (very master racish before its time). Also because the men were often off fighting or training (a man essentially lived in baracks from 7 to 30) they would assume positions of power. The whole necessity for all which was the need to supress the indigenous slave population of the helots. The Romans are cool but pretty mysogynistic - not exactly gender equal at all.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 11, 2009 0:07:10 GMT -5
The Spartans actually sound quite fitting. I didn't really know the Romans leaned one way or the other on the whole womens rights issue.
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Post by davedan on Nov 11, 2009 0:14:34 GMT -5
As the pater familias - I have the power under roman law (if i so desired) to discipline in any way I saw fit my family (that includes my wife and children) even if that meant killing them. (while such discipline was frowned upon they were still my legal rights). I don't know about you but I would say that comes down fairly hard on the women's equality thing. That is not to say there weren't women who were famous or got into positions of power, look at Clodia, Livia or Aurelia (the big JC's mum) but generally women were not treated equally. Not as badly as the athenian women but hardly womens lib (let alone suffrage - but seeing as there wasn't universal male suffrage or even equal suffrage among those men who could vote, perhaps it is less of an issue)
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Post by tygerarmy on Nov 28, 2009 0:27:01 GMT -5
Spartan-warrior/Samurai Buddhist people Norse mythos, change the sexes and add a shape-shifting/transgendered Buddha/Jesus any missing gods steal from Hindus and Egypt like, Sekhmet belief in reincarnation until they become the balanced spiritual warrior, then they earn passage to Valhalla
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Dec 19, 2009 18:57:31 GMT -5
I love how I just sort of forgot about this topic. Then again, I haven't done anything with it for like...ever. Maybe I'll do something over break. Probably not.
One thing I don't have yet is an established afterlife. That idea is good, but part of me doesn't want to use reincarnation, for some reason.
I figure it'll probably be one of those religions with the dogma that the emperor is/becomes a God, so that would be the Buddha/Jesus figure. Only with more violence.
I suppose the rest of the gods would largely be mixes of others. What are good ones to put together?
For war, I'd kinda figure Thor & Haphetus, 'cause of lightning, fire, & bad attitudes.
Not sure about love. I don't like Aphrodite at all, & I don't recall Freyja ever doing anything besides being bitchy when her hair got cut.
Hmm....
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Post by stormwarden on Dec 21, 2009 1:05:09 GMT -5
For love, what about Bast?
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Dec 21, 2009 1:25:39 GMT -5
Don't know much about Bast. Do tell.
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Post by chad sexington on Dec 21, 2009 3:19:01 GMT -5
I don't recall Freyja ever doing anything besides being bitchy when her hair got cut. Freyja would fight Odin for the souls of the dead slain in battle. She was also queen of the Valkyries. Re the haircut, you might be thinking of Sif, who was Thor's wife I believe?
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Post by stormwarden on Dec 21, 2009 22:44:28 GMT -5
Don't know much about Bast. Do tell. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastet_(mythology)Here is the Wikipedia of it, but other places claim that Bast is part of a triumvirate that also includes Sekhmet (the lion-headed goddess of war) and Hathor.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Dec 22, 2009 1:28:07 GMT -5
I don't recall Freyja ever doing anything besides being bitchy when her hair got cut. Freyja would fight Odin for the souls of the dead slain in battle. She was also queen of the Valkyries. Re the haircut, you might be thinking of Sif, who was Thor's wife I believe? I'm thinking of the goddess of love, whichever one that was.
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Post by chad sexington on Dec 22, 2009 2:52:28 GMT -5
Yeah, she did both. Like Ishtar.
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