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Post by keresm on Aug 2, 2009 21:01:26 GMT -5
As has already been pointed out to you in the other thread by Bluefinger, so do take the time to actually read before you type, you were saying that anyone who held that point of view was a sick fuck, implying that since Lithp must hold that position, he's a sick fuck. Please quote me implying that Lithp doesn't think people should be allowed to defend themselves against rapists, or apologize for lying about me. Please quote me calling someone a twat in another thread, or apologize for lying about me. Please quote me implying another forum member was a sick fuck, and do so in more than one thread, or apologize for lying about me.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Aug 2, 2009 21:07:23 GMT -5
So your panties are in a twist because I used a 'bad' word? Which, I might add, apparently isn't forbidden, because others do it all the time. Oh, and who are you claiming I called a 'sick fuck'? I'd really like to know. Which member did I call a sick fuck? Quote me calling a member of this forum a sick fuck. Get over it, and get your head out of your hypocritical ass if you want any respect. Before you get your panties in a twist, slow down and read. Now, read what I wrote. It's not about the bad word itself. It's about using it as an attack against a forum member. You said "others use this word all the time." I said that others do not use that word to attack another forum member all the time. That does not mean you do it all the time. That means that while they may use the word itself "all the time," they're not using it to attack another forum member personally.
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Post by Aqualung on Aug 2, 2009 21:15:01 GMT -5
So I guess only mods are allowed to insult people. Got it.
DV, my problem is that you said you weren't going to say anymore on the subject in one post, and then you turn around and make ANOTHER post about it. I dont' give a fuck what anyone else in the thread said, the fact of the matter is YOU were being a lying, hypocritical ass. Your arguing method seems to only be "I'm right and you're wrong, now STFU!" A bunch of people here have now taken you to task for your hypocrisy. Think about it.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 2, 2009 21:18:24 GMT -5
You ask me, that's semantics. Isn't calling me childish an attempt to invalidate my claims? And Dante, you sure do not ACT like you don't want to get into a childish mud-slinging contest: "-I- linked you in that post. Don't know what you're talking about?" Yeah, I do. Unlike you, I have access to my inbox. I can see the PM chain I am talking about. Just because you think you proved something there, that does not make it so. Taking credit for a point Death made in your favor--by accident--will not change that. And Keresm's quotes, if nothing else, show your tendency to get all high-&-mighty with people, making implications of higher intellect, & so on. Speaking of Keresm's quotes, you called me defensive & pissy. I tell you to calm down later on, & you call it a red herring. Blatantly hypocritical, yet you've never acknowledged that. Know why? Because you ignore it every time someone points these things out, or--dare I say it? Try to twist out of what you originally said. Yes, this is Flame & Burn. That's how I justify calling you a dumbass in the OP. But the fact is that this maturity act is absolute bullshit. Did you forget the multitude of "snarky comeback " posts you made? That's a damn Elementary School tactic there, Dante.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Aug 2, 2009 21:23:18 GMT -5
So I guess only mods are allowed to insult people. Got it. DV, my problem is that you said you weren't going to say anymore on the subject in one post, and then you turn around and make ANOTHER post about it. I dont' give a fuck what anyone else in the thread said, the fact of the matter is YOU were being a lying, hypocritical ass. Your arguing method seems to only be "I'm right and you're wrong, now STFU!" A bunch of people here have now taken you to task for your hypocrisy. Think about it. Who, exactly, is "a bunch of people"? The same number of people questioning you on the bitch to the mods thread? Choosing not to deal with you in a thread is not the same thing as choosing not to talk with everybody else in the thread. Being "done" with you doesn't mean I have to restrict myself from talking to everybody else. Admiral Lithp I thought I clarified in a previous post I wasn't calling you childish, at least that's not my intention. I was saying the "what's your excuse" argument I consider childish, and I don't wish to engage in that. I wasn't trying to make a statement about you personally.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 2, 2009 21:30:33 GMT -5
Thing is, Dante, I do not accept your clarification, because if it were me, you'd just say I'm trying to twist out of a bad situation by pretending I meant something different.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Aug 2, 2009 21:36:14 GMT -5
OK. That's fine. It's your choice.
That's a no win, situation, though. I'll even apologize outright for it, if that helps make the clarification more sincere, or something.
Again, I have no interest in a personal vendetta with you (or anyone else, for that matter). I have no interest in coming here to call you a child or a dumbass. If you want to keep a personal vendetta with me, that's always your choice, obviously. I'd just rather not on my end.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 2, 2009 21:39:48 GMT -5
It's not a no-win situation, it's very easily remedied by actually stopping to look at your behavior, & not applying standards to others that are obviously ridiculous.
Take this, for instance: I'm sure I can dig up the quote where you made that statement. How, exactly, is someone to go about "proving" that they meant a sentence in a certain way?
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Post by dantesvirgil on Aug 2, 2009 21:41:10 GMT -5
::shrug:: I said I'm sorry, I clarified. I can't do any better than that, if that isn't good enough for you. Just let me repeat, I have no interest in a personal vendetta against you.
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Post by keresm on Aug 2, 2009 21:46:07 GMT -5
It's not about the bad word itself. It's about using it as an attack against a forum member. You said "others use this word all the time." I said that others do not use that word to attack another forum member all the time. That does not mean you do it all the time. That means that while they may use the word itself "all the time," they're not using it to attack another forum member personally. Since you didn't read my previous post, I'll repeat it for you As has already been pointed out to you in the other thread by Bluefinger, so do take the time to actually read before you type, you were saying that anyone who held that point of view was a sick fuck, implying that since Lithp must hold that position, he's a sick fuck. Please quote me implying that Lithp doesn't think people should be allowed to defend themselves against rapists, or apologize for lying about me. Please quote me calling someone a twat in another thread, or apologize for lying about me. Please quote me implying another forum member was a sick fuck, and do so in more than one thread, or apologize for lying about me. Note that I quoted what you said before responding, something you failed to do so you could misquote me. I do not doubt that your misquotation was deliberate, given how the latest source of your hypocrisy is an argument about semantics. I did not say others used the word 'twat' all the time. My statement was - "So your panties are in a twist because I used a 'bad' word? Which, I might add, apparently isn't forbidden, because others do it all the time" Note that 'twat' is not the only 'bad word' in existence. It is not even considered a 'curse' word or 'foul' language by many people. I await your apology.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Aug 2, 2009 21:51:29 GMT -5
Then you'll be waiting a long time. Do you really expect anyone to believe you were warned for saying the world "bitching" or something? We've been discussing the word "twat" and the words "sick fuck." If there was some other mystery curse word you think we were talking about, then you need to clarify which ones. Then, you accused me of lying by saying you said twat/sick fuck "all the time" -- which clearly is not what I said. Incidentally, I quoted the post you wrote. I didn't "misquote" you. I just bolded what you typed.
Bottom line is, I don't give a shit what you think about me. You still haven't apologized for calling me a hypocrite for not warning two other people after I showed you very clearly that I had. Why the fuck should I apologize for your shite reading comprehension?
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Post by keresm on Aug 2, 2009 21:57:39 GMT -5
You still haven't apologized for calling me a hypocrite for not warning two other people after I showed you very clearly that I had. Nor will I, because you did not warn them the way you did me. See, you warned me with a lie, by accusing me of making a statement that I never made. You did not do the same deliberate misrepresentation of their posts to treat them in such a manner. I ask again - Please quote me implying that Lithp doesn't think people should be allowed to defend themselves against rapists, or apologize for lying about me.
Please quote me implying another forum member was a sick fuck, and do so in more than one thread, or apologize for lying about me.If you do not, you will be admitting that your warning was invalid, and thus hypocritical, because you singled ME out to lie about me. We have already established that you warned me for something I did not do. Would you like to keep digging yourself further into this hole? I directly quoted you. Nice attempt to backtrack.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Aug 2, 2009 22:08:06 GMT -5
You quoted me, and you'll notice the sentence did not say you did it but they didn't. I even clarified what I meant. You're choosing to continue to read it that way, why, I haven't the slightest idea.
Here's the exchange with lithp:
And to deal with the ad hom nature of it, here's what Bluefinger had to say about it, as he puts it quite nicely:
And here is the quote where both you and clockworkgirl21 were informally warned:
You were both warned at the same time and in the same way. That's about as equal as it gets.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Aug 2, 2009 22:08:23 GMT -5
::shrug:: I said I'm sorry, I clarified. I can't do any better than that, if that isn't good enough for you. Just let me repeat, I have no interest in a personal vendetta against you. Speaking of avoiding hypocrisy, I figure I should address the example you keep bringing up: "And you're making an ass out of yourself. We've already established I'm stubborn, what's your excuse?" This was said in response to the snarky comebacks. What it refers to is a point earlier in the topic, where you said I would argue stubbornly, refusing to drop something even after having been proven wrong on it. You say this is a childish argument. I do not see it. It is asking you, simply, "How is this not being stubborn and refusing to drop something?" That said, I don't know exactly what you're "apologizing" for, but you certainly could do better. You could start by not ignoring all of these examples. As it stands, I really don't care enough for this to be called a "personal vanndetta," but whatever.
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Post by dantesvirgil on Aug 2, 2009 22:12:01 GMT -5
Of course I could -- everybody could. That's why I said in this thread that I took my eye off the ball, meaning I got sidetracked into an avenue I don't normally want or like to go down. I am also apologizing for the way I worded my explanation so that it could be read as saying you were a kid or childish. You cared enough to go to F&B even when you said earlier that you didn't care. So, all I'm saying is, I'm not trying to say anything about you as a person.
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