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Post by Jebediah on Mar 31, 2009 13:39:22 GMT -5
When I was younger I wanted to go to heaven so much because I thought it meant I would be able to sit on a cloud.
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Post by trike on Mar 31, 2009 13:52:03 GMT -5
Even when I badly wanted to die when I was a Christian I was really hoping that heaven was better than what I had been told. ...At least dinosaurs (but what, they are a trap of Satan, so they'll probably be in hell, YAY!).
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Post by Old Viking on Mar 31, 2009 14:19:46 GMT -5
What Star Cluster says. It would be unimaginably boring. I find repugnant the idea of being "happy" continuously. It is, quite literally, inhuman. If we were all perpetually happy here on earth each of us would have the personality of vanilla pudding.
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Post by Bluefinger on Mar 31, 2009 14:47:37 GMT -5
Anything which holds to the concept of being 'eternal and everlasting' will be nothing more than torture. Sure, you'd get to be around for a long time... but then 100 years would go by, then a 1000, then 1000000, and so forth. And with each milestone, there will still be no end to your existence.
It isn't a matter of being 'perfect' in order to appreciate eternal existence, it is a matter of simply existing. If you have an eternity to live, you'll be infinitely aware of aware of everything, as you'd be given the length of time to achieve that. But without end, your existence would become painfully aware and monotonous. No matter how good heaven is supposed to be, it will eventually become no better than Hell.
Thankfully, this shit isn't real. I've had a debate about this with a couple of people before, and it astounds me that despite the philosophical points that I kept trouncing, they couldn't acknowledge my viewpoint, and one went so far as going "Well, what happens to all the kids that died and suffered young?". I facepalm'd at that because out of all the actually decent attempts at a philosophical debate, someone had to do the "Think of the children!" argument. Though honestly, the points that were supposedly 'decent' were nothing more than nebulous new-age kind of crap, or just really annoying theist stuff.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Mar 31, 2009 14:53:48 GMT -5
In heaven I'd be expected to be the gender I was born (oh HELLS no), and give praise to the most monstrous sociopath to have ever existed. In hell I'd get to hang out with all sorts of cool people, and there'll be plenty of scientists and engineers who can make air conditioners (if there's actual flame, there's temperature difference that can be exploited), and the flames can be used to make iron chariots for the overthrow of heaven and it's diabolical master. Overthrow of heaven?......Shhhhh, Oriet....God can hears you....
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Post by The Lazy One on Mar 31, 2009 14:55:28 GMT -5
In heaven I'd be expected to be the gender I was born (oh HELLS no), and give praise to the most monstrous sociopath to have ever existed. In hell I'd get to hang out with all sorts of cool people, and there'll be plenty of scientists and engineers who can make air conditioners (if there's actual flame, there's temperature difference that can be exploited), and the flames can be used to make iron chariots for the overthrow of heaven and it's diabolical master. I like the way that you think.... I wonder if we'll be allowed to toast marshmallows? Do you think Satan will care? And I think I'd rather hang out for eternity with Gandhi and Dawkins and people than a bunch of fundies. Sure, it might be kind of toasty, but I'm sure there will be air conditioners by the time I get down there.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Mar 31, 2009 14:59:03 GMT -5
In heaven I'd be expected to be the gender I was born (oh HELLS no), and give praise to the most monstrous sociopath to have ever existed. In hell I'd get to hang out with all sorts of cool people, and there'll be plenty of scientists and engineers who can make air conditioners (if there's actual flame, there's temperature difference that can be exploited), and the flames can be used to make iron chariots for the overthrow of heaven and it's diabolical master. I like the way that you think.... I wonder if we'll be allowed to toast marshmallows? Do you think Satan will care? Dude, I LOVE toasted marshmellows. *gasp* We could have s'mores with the Prince of Darkness!!!!! P.S. I love your kitty, Lazy One, but I miss your cactus....
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Post by starbrewer on Mar 31, 2009 15:05:02 GMT -5
I know there is going to be a party in hell, because I'm going there. Hell has better music and drinks than heaven.
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Post by Aqualung on Mar 31, 2009 15:07:29 GMT -5
I like the way that you think.... I wonder if we'll be allowed to toast marshmallows? Do you think Satan will care? Dude, I LOVE toasted marshmellows. *gasp* We could have s'mores with the Prince of Darkness!!!!! Ozzy Osbourne??
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Mar 31, 2009 15:10:56 GMT -5
Dude, I LOVE toasted marshmellows. *gasp* We could have s'mores with the Prince of Darkness!!!!! Ozzy Osbourne?? I hope so! I can listen to "Hellraiser" and "Crazy Train" and "War Pigs" and all my favorites for eternity!
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Post by Bojangles on Mar 31, 2009 15:15:59 GMT -5
Just contemplating the idea of spending eternity with people like my stepfather's family and the fundies from my mom's church is enough to put me off.
So I'll be joining the party downstairs with you guys, ok?
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Post by antichrist on Mar 31, 2009 15:34:24 GMT -5
I still like the Chinese buffet version of heaven and hell
Exact same situation, where you're stuck with 3' chopsticks in your hands and a delicious never ending buffet in front of you.
In hell everyone's screaming because they are unable to get the food to their mouths.
In heaven everyone is feeding each other and having a wonderful time.
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Post by antichrist on Mar 31, 2009 15:35:52 GMT -5
HEAVEN ~ Talking Heads[/u]
Everyone is trying to get to the bar. The name of the bar, the bar is called heaven. The band in heaven plays my favorite song. They play it once again, they play it all night long.
Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens. Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
There is a party, everyone is there. Everyone will leave at exactly the same time. Its hard to imagine that nothing at all Could be so exciting, and so much fun.
Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens. Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
When this kiss is over it will start again. It will not be any different, it will be exactly The same. Its hard to imagine that nothing at all Could be so exciting, could be so much fun.
Heaven is a place where nothing every happens. Heaven is a place where nothing every happens.
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Post by clockworkgirl21 on Mar 31, 2009 15:54:44 GMT -5
When I was little, I thought Heaven was a place where you got wings, and got to be with all your loved ones again.
Since I had horrible depression, that sounded better than the life I was living, and I seriously considered suicide.
I was eight.
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Post by Vene on Mar 31, 2009 16:19:31 GMT -5
I hope so! I can listen to "Hellraiser" and "Crazy Train" and "War Pigs" and all my favorites for eternity! But I thought Ozzy was Christian. Meh, he's still going to hell according to the fundies.
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