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Post by theamericancowboy on Apr 12, 2009 17:34:39 GMT -5
I hadn't even thought about this until I came across this article. The author seems to have a valid point when it comes to the double-standard in the media when it comes to white communities in North Dakota affected by flooding, as opposed to the predominantly black New Orleans. Also, why is it ok for the mayor of New Orleans to say that he wants New Orleans to be a "chocolate (i.e., black) town," but if I say that I want to live in a white community, I'm called a "racist?" www.texasrainmaker.com/2009/03/27/barack-obama-hates-white-people/
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Post by schizophonic on Apr 12, 2009 19:15:32 GMT -5
Ignoring the fact that the chocolate crack got him a ton of heat, you're right. But then, you can't ignore the criticism on one end and not the other and be taken seriously.
That being said, I wonder why there would be more of a concern for an economic hub, where a significant population didn't even have the option to leave, versus those poor middle class folks who agonized over the decision to leave or stay. While we're at it, NO has like 4 times the population.
This junk food for thought, as mentally nourishing as a stale Twinky.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 12, 2009 19:31:39 GMT -5
Stupid anti-white slant in the media:
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Post by funkenstein on Apr 12, 2009 20:14:28 GMT -5
Are you serious? I remember Ray Nagin bumblingly trying to justify his "chocolate city" remark after getting fully (and rightfully) blasted over it.
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Post by dasfuchs on Apr 13, 2009 5:52:49 GMT -5
It's been a while, but we had that debate back on the HS board. The white couple were witnessed grabbing bottles of water and such that were floating past, the black guy was witnessed grabbing things off shelves at a grocery store. Granted i think it was perfectly acceptable to do such in that situation, taking from a store would qualify more as looting..As far as comparing that to this flood now, let's see, cat 5 hurricane, flooded economic and transportation hub of the US, people that didn't have the option to leave except 'start walkin' since they were, ya know, poor while a mayor, a governor and a president were doing a fine job at stuffing their feet in their mouths vs middle class families that had every ability and opportunity to leave and are better prepared for such issues? Oh yes, i can see entirely why the media is following a double standard. This is like comparing some neighbor's dog being shot to the neighbor being murdered, what do you think the news will focus on more? Oh, but you can always go back and watch fox 'news' and listen to them ponder how Michele could possibly change clothes on an 8 hour flight
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Post by JonathanE on Apr 13, 2009 6:28:50 GMT -5
Congratulations on an impeccable, unbiased news source there, cowpie.
For a person who swears by the "constitution", your working knowledge of the same seems a little lacking, vis a vis race.
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Post by skyfire on Apr 13, 2009 8:20:43 GMT -5
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Post by schizophonic on Apr 13, 2009 9:19:04 GMT -5
Hey Sky, check the last line of the first Snopes article. Actually, read the bulk of the article.
Snopes predominantly indicates the photo is true, not the logistics or your conclusion.
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Post by the sandman on Apr 13, 2009 10:38:18 GMT -5
I hadn't even thought about this until I came across this article. The author seems to have a valid point when it comes to the double-standard in the media when it comes to white communities in North Dakota affected by flooding, as opposed to the predominantly black New Orleans. Also, why is it ok for the mayor of New Orleans to say that he wants New Orleans to be a "chocolate (i.e., black) town," but if I say that I want to live in a white community, I'm called a "racist?" www.texasrainmaker.com/2009/03/27/barack-obama-hates-white-people/ While I chuckle at your choice of source (hardly a legitimate news "article," man. That's a highly-biased op-ed essay from a website with a stated racist agenda), I do acknowledge that we have kind of painted ourselves into a corner on the issue of racial pride. Not sure if that's the result of centuries of opprerssion of blacks by whites, the byproduct of an out of control politically-correct movement, or some form of subconscious societal guilt, but it is true that the phrase "Black Pride!" is accepted and even encouraged, but the phrase "White Pride!" is condemned and vilified. I know, I know that the historical context of those two phrases are different, and I know that the subtext on them can be read 180 degrees opposite. I know that the connotation of the "Black Pride!" oath is one of unity and strength and community, while the connotation of the white equivelent is racism, discrimination, and hate, but it is still odd. It would be possible for someone to express "White Pride!" in the same, supposedly healthy context that "Black Pride!" is assumed to have, just as the opposite is possible. Oh, and by the way, you're called a racist because of the racist statements you have made, not because you want to live in a white neighborhood.
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Post by Vene on Apr 13, 2009 11:04:16 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, you're called a racist because of the racist statements you have made, not because you want to live in a white neighborhood. I'm proof of that, I'm a motherfucking cracker and I grew up in a town that is 95% white. Nobody here has every accused me of racism. You know why? Because I'm not a closet klansman.
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Post by schizophonic on Apr 13, 2009 11:08:31 GMT -5
Oddly enough, if it weren't for the constant bigotry in this country, there would be no imperative for minorities to display pride. There's an intrinsic notion that we should be ashamed if we're coloured, gay, female (though not technically a minority, still oppressed), etc.
whining about not being able to say white pride, while technically valid, misses the larger issue at hand. It's kind of like affirmative action; it shouldn't have to exist, but it does because of an inequity that also shouldn't exist.
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Post by Paradox on Apr 13, 2009 12:08:59 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, you're called a racist because of the racist statements you have made, not because you want to live in a white neighborhood. I'm proof of that, I'm a motherfucking cracker and I grew up in a town that is 95% white. Nobody here has every accused me of racism. You know why? Because I'm not a closet klansman. Same here.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 13, 2009 14:28:46 GMT -5
Well, who else uses phrases like "Negro" or "Oriental" anymore? It's either he's a racist or his mind is perpetually stuck in the 19th Century.
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Post by John E on Apr 13, 2009 14:31:04 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, you're called a racist because of the racist statements you have made, not because you want to live in a white neighborhood. I'm proof of that, I'm a motherfucking cracker and I grew up in a town that is 95% white. Nobody here has every accused me of racism. You know why? Because I'm not a closet klansman. I would argue though, that growing up in a mostly white neighborhood is different than choosing to live in a mostly white neighborhood as an adult (assuming of course that race is the reason for choosing that neighborhood. I'm moving to a mostly white neighborhood, but it's because I like the area and it's where I can afford. Race has nothing to do with it. In fact, I'm a little apprehensive because I heard there's some skinheads in the area.) because in the former case it's not a choice, just circumstances you were born into. Another point is that because of generations of racism, blacks are more likely to be caught in the cycle of poverty and thus live in poor neighborhoods, whereas whites are more likely to be born into wealth (or at least the middle class) and are more likely to live in affluent neighborhoods. As such, wanting to move to a white neighborhood isn't necessarily about race but about living conditions, where race is unfortunately corollated with same. In short, TAC's desire to live in a white neighborhood MIGHT be an indicator of racism, depending on his reasons.
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Post by Sigmaleph on Apr 13, 2009 14:34:14 GMT -5
Well, who else uses phrases like "Negro" or "Oriental" anymore? It's either he's a racist or his mind is perpetually stuck in the 19th Century. I do... In another language, spelled the same, not necessarily have racist connotations. But yeah, I use them.
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