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Post by dasfuchs on Apr 13, 2009 16:46:55 GMT -5
Oddly enough, if it weren't for the constant bigotry in this country, there would be no imperative for minorities to display pride. There's an intrinsic notion that we should be ashamed if we're coloured, gay, female (though not technically a minority, still oppressed), etc. whining about not being able to say white pride, while technically valid, misses the larger issue at hand. It's kind of like affirmative action; it shouldn't have to exist, but it does because of an inequity that also shouldn't exist. Somehow i don't think 'white power' would be such an issue if it wasn't for nazi/flanfags screaming it at everyone while snapping a sieg heil each time
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Post by booley on Apr 13, 2009 19:05:44 GMT -5
.... Somehow i don't think 'white power' would be such an issue if it wasn't for nazi/flanfags screaming it at everyone while snapping a sieg heil each time I agree. I am proud of being of Irish descent. So I guess in a way I am proud of my EUROPEAN (hence White) ancestry. But my pride in my white ancestors is in no way diminished by people being proud of their non white heritage. OR if they are proud of any other characteristic. But the "White Pride" folk aren't just saying be proud if you are white. They saying one is better because one is white. Which ironically indicates a certain insecurity on their part.
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Post by skyfire on Apr 13, 2009 20:55:11 GMT -5
Here's a hint, Current is from Argentina. I edited my statement for the Spanish word for black. I still don't know what they use the word "Oriental" for in Spanish. At any rate, that's really not what I was talking about..... "Oriental" is used in geology to designate the "east" side of something, such as the Sierra Madre Occidental (west) and Sierra Madre Oriental (east) denoting the the fact that the two sides of the Sierra Madre chain are geologically distinct.
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Post by Sigmaleph on Apr 13, 2009 20:57:21 GMT -5
Here's a hint, Current is from Argentina. I edited my statement for the Spanish word for black. I still don't know what they use the word "Oriental" for in Spanish. At any rate, that's really not what I was talking about..... I know it's not what you meant, was mostly joking. But yeah, in Spanish, negro means black and oriental means oriental. Pronounced different, spelled the same.
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Yeah, its something like that.
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Post by patgib on Apr 17, 2009 10:45:57 GMT -5
Lets drop the media hype. I was there. I worked all over Louisiana. I worked armed security (which was not only federal regulation, but COMPLETELY necessary.) for FEMA and the American Red Cross. The most striking place I worked was Chalmette. All of the residents of Saint Bernard Parish were moved to a FEMA run tent city called Camp Premier. Not truly ideal living but far better than being homeless. This was a short term area where the residents could get showers, food and a warm dry place to sleep. It was meant to House individuals until FEMA approved them for a trailer. Unfortunately, they most didn't qualify for a trailer for various reasons and literally stayed until the last day before we shut down the resident camp. When we would go to our hotel rooms (it was deemed to dangerous for us to stay there after several attacks on guards in showers and in bed.) we would stop at every single open business along the way and pick up applications for people. But when they came to the FEMA councilors begging for more money they would say 'there aren't any jobs.'
The best was a guy who I handed a McDonald's application. Which was paying 10 dollars an hour with a 250 dollar signing bonus because they couldn't find employees. He said "I ain't working no fuckin faz food job!" So promptly I asked him what he did before the hurricane. "I worked at Burger King." And thats a true story.
I live in Texas, my best friend works as a security guard at the college in my home town. Many evacuees stayed at the open college dorms and the hotel in our town. Every day the baptist Preacher would come in and take about 20 people to do odd jobs so they could earn some extra cash. I am not normally proponent of religious intervention, but a good deed is a good deed. He payed the people to work about 2 or 3 hours a day and earn themselves 50 ro 60 dollars. Nothing big, but it helped.
One day the preacher came in and asked a man my friend was talking to, if he would like to work. The mans answer was shocking. "I haven't worked a day in my life, I don't plan to start now." WTF? My friend and the campus police officer who he works with heard it and laughed. That is the kind of people we were bending over backwards to help.
Seriously, there was allot of stuff the media doesn't tell you.
At Camp Premier I really got a taste of the true bottom of the barrel of society. Daily (or nightly since I worked nights) we had to deal with drug dealers, prostitutes and out right scum. We had a huge problem with a mother-daughter prostitute team. We finally caught them and had them expelled from the camp. The daughter was only 15.
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Post by devilschaplain2 on Apr 17, 2009 11:38:30 GMT -5
Okay, you have one example of dealing with a moron. I have a bunch of those from being a goddamned cashier. I had this dumbass white dude who was standing in front of the "Next Register Please" sign for about ten minutes while I was working photolab. Suddenly he yells out, "Does anyone even work here?!" I just stand up and point to the register I was standing in front of the whole fucking time.
Aha, my two examples of stupid and lazy people are enough to say "Fuck you" to Hurricane Katrina victims! Yes, because that makes soooooo much sense...
Yeah, like they had such horrible people working security for FEMA and the Red Cross.
I think its sad that some people look at these guys who are so impoverished and at "the true bottom of the barrel of society" and go and say that they're scum or that they don't deserve help or other such nonsense. What about people who are forced into dealing drugs and prostitution because they had no other line of work? I get people like that at a soup kitchen here in NY. But when I'm handing out food and something to drink, I'm not looking at poor people as if they're another species, which apparently you do (though it could be both classism AND racism, I'm not entirely certain). At any rate, I'd never hire a fucking bigot if I were working with FEMA or the Red Cross....
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Post by perv on Apr 17, 2009 15:47:27 GMT -5
At Camp Premier I really got a taste of the true bottom of the barrel of society. Daily (or nightly since I worked nights) we had to deal with drug dealers, prostitutes Hey, at least they took a proactive approach to finding work.
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Post by schizophonic on Apr 17, 2009 15:49:23 GMT -5
At Camp Premier I really got a taste of the true bottom of the barrel of society. Daily (or nightly since I worked nights) we had to deal with drug dealers, prostitutes Hey, at least they took a proactive approach to finding work. Plus, people always complain families don't do enough together.
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