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Post by Oriet on May 6, 2011 23:27:47 GMT -5
Because I was raised to believe in him. There really isn't much else to it besides that. So, how is this any different than, say, Santa Claus? Or aspect of history, physics, or any other number of things? |
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Post by wmdkitty on May 7, 2011 1:50:29 GMT -5
I was born of the Earth, to the Earth I shall return.
I find an odd kind of comfort in the thought of just... rotting away, my material components broken down, becoming one with the planet that once sustained me.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on May 7, 2011 2:09:22 GMT -5
I used to find the thought of simply blinking out of existence rather disturbing until I heard someone claim that they'd rather be tortured in hell for all eternity than not exist at all. In an interesting twist of irony, it got me thinking that having no consciousness means one can't experience anything, including loss or longing for the life they no longer have. I won't even know I'm dead. Of course, I still fear death to some degree (I'm still alive, and very much capable of feeling a sort of premature sense of loss), but it no longer scares me quite as much as it used to.
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Post by Bluefinger on May 7, 2011 5:55:00 GMT -5
I really don't mean this to sound insulting.... ...but that sounds very.... off to me. Not creepy...but....more like an Uncanny Valley thing. I can't figure out why. And can you point out why, other than it makes you feel uncomfortable? Why does it seem off to you? Is my acceptance of my mortality unnerving? Everything else about it is just poetic ideas of mine, nothing more. I'd hazard a guess that this may make you uncomfortable because it drives in that feeling of mortality into you. And you probably have trouble understanding why I can be comfortable with that. But, this is just a wild guess, but anything might help in at least aiding you figure out why. This is gonna look like shit in comparison to that: The natural consequence of being an atheist is not "nothing happens after you die," that's the natural consequence of being a naturalist. It just so happens that naturalists are also atheists. Just to note, this is a valid point, so yeah... |
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Post by Fright Vault on May 8, 2011 16:47:27 GMT -5
Your original post requested a thorough refutation in order to help develop your worldview, so I'm going to go ahead and assume that this applies to similar posts in this thread. If my assumption is mistaken, please forgive my intrusion. I haven't seen any truly conclusive proof that God doesn't exist (on the other hand, I have seen no conclusive proof that he does exist, either) The burden of proof falls on the individual making the positive claim. Without evidentiary support for that claim, it falls into the realm of the null hypothesis, wherein a claim is doubted until it shown/suggested to be empirically true. I think you'll find that most atheists don't contend that there is definitively no God, but that the existence of God falls short of the null hypothesis and therefore they take the default position of non-belief. When there's no evidence either way, this seems to be the most rational course. God sort of fits into my philosophy on life. I have an extremely optmistic world view (at times), and being an Atheist just seems....depressing. There's nothing to work for, it seems, if you're just going to die eventually. ... At least, with God, I always know that no matter how shit my life becomes, no matter what happens, no matter how what kind of suffering I may possibly go through, that I can still hit it big (going to Heaven) in the end. If I'm just going to die and rot in the ground, what's the point? You asked for logical fallacies in your reasoning, and this is a notable example. It is an appeal to consequence: the result of knowing or believing a particular thing does not affect the truth or non-truth of that thing. Let's argue, for a moment, that God actually is not real. Would you prefer to struggle with a difficult truth, or would you be content to remain in blissful ignorance? |
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Post by anon87311 on May 8, 2011 17:15:18 GMT -5
As an anti-theist, I'm happy. I have a girlfriend whom I love very much, and she loves me. I'm sane, the only cuts on my arms are from the rats I take care of for other people(and my cat when I'm around him), I'm not into drugs or drinking, and I have opinions on both sides of the aisle.
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Over himself, over his body and soul, the individual is sovereign--J S Mill.
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Post by apedant on May 12, 2011 7:44:47 GMT -5
The thought that there are people who would think it ok to take my bike, knowing that it doesn't belong to them, saddens me deeply. I still act on the knowledge of their existence and lock my bike. The thought of there being no afterlife saddening you doesn't dispel the fact that there is no evidence for one existing.
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