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Post by Vene on May 27, 2011 11:14:07 GMT -5
It's just going to be worse in a city, because there is simply more to ignore. You can't react to all the things around you due to the sheer volume so you end up ignoring things that in a less populated area you wouldn't.
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Post by tiado on May 27, 2011 11:19:50 GMT -5
It's good to know that the people of Texas are still good people.
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Post by Old Viking on May 27, 2011 15:08:23 GMT -5
Hey, I've got a good idea. There isn't enough bigotry and malice in society, let's go out and stage some. WTF?
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on May 27, 2011 15:10:54 GMT -5
I agree that the main difference was more rural VS city. I am willing to be that if the same thing was done in a smaller family oriented diner (like it was in Texas) you would get similar reactions. I think a more interesting study would be to figure out why it is like that. (lastly, am I the only one that felt my gaydar lighting up just a little with regards to most of the people who stood up for the gay couples?) Not necessarily most of them, but a few of them set mine off-- Donovan seemed like he could be gay. But then again, my gaydar's busted, so igNOOORE me.
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Post by Thejebusfire on May 27, 2011 15:25:17 GMT -5
See, not all southerners are ignorant people.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on May 27, 2011 17:27:24 GMT -5
Hey, I've got a good idea. There isn't enough bigotry and malice in society, let's go out and stage some. WTF? Potentially encouraging bystanders to be more perceptive of the world around them is a bad thing?
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Post by The Watcher on May 27, 2011 18:50:58 GMT -5
I agree that the main difference was more rural VS city. I am willing to be that if the same thing was done in a smaller family oriented diner (like it was in Texas) you would get similar reactions. I think a more interesting study would be to figure out why it is like that. I'm not so sure. Speaking as a resident of metro NYC, and a person who works in the city, I understand the reactions of the people in the NY clip. We New Yorkers don't have a lot of space to ourselves. Small apartments fetch huge rents, just because space is at such a premium. Our own little personal bubbles are small, but distinct, and we generally don't start in on strangers. Our way of maintaining our "space" is simply to withdraw into our little bubbles. Furthermore, we're very good at ignoring things. When you walk down the street in New York, you have to learn to ignore: people arguing, street preachers, people handing you pamphlets, people hawking wares, car horns, construction, sirens, and untold other distractions. No, I don't just mean one noise on one block and another noise the next block. It can be ALL AT ONCE. When I would visit the city as a child, coming from far upstate where I lived, even the buildings were a distraction. It's not uncommon to see tourists in busy intersections standing there taking pictures of buildings and cars, because there's just so damn much going on at once. So we tune it out. We tune out everything. Our politeness is to mind our own business. If we intervened, people wouldn't appreciate it, even if we were helping, because in New York, you mind yo' business. So, we're not uncaring. Look at Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who won in a landslide, shouting "I'm gonna legalize gay marriage!" the whole way. Consistently and unfailingly. Yeah, we voted him in. We do care, and if we were standing in a voting booth with a lever that said "Legalize gay marriage" we'd probably push it. Especially those of us down here, in and around the city. But we don't intervene in other people's issues. Okay yeah, a little
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Post by jackmann on May 27, 2011 19:45:50 GMT -5
A buddy of mine made a point about this, based on his experiences in England. There was a girl in a shop nearby who was considered rude because she'd chat with the customers. Back home in the states, that would be considered normal. Not chatting is considered more rude, in a lot of places. He theorized that it was because in England (particularly the cities), there are a lot of people, and not a lot of room. You're polite by ignoring people, giving them the illusion of privacy. In much of the US (excluding places like New York), there's a lot of space. You're polite by reminding people that there are others around them. Seems like the same sort of thing.
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Post by anti-nonsense on May 27, 2011 20:13:49 GMT -5
I'm a big city kid too, mind Vancouver isn't nearly as big as New York, and I grew up in a somewhat quiet neighbourhood, but the principle is sound, you don't talk to random people on the street or in stores or in restaurants. You mostly tune out other people's conversations cause if you didn't you'd suffer from perpetual distraction. If I noticed gay parents being harassed I'd speak up, but chances are I wouldn't notice.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 27, 2011 21:45:49 GMT -5
I was waiting for that to happen.
"Why didn't you help that lesbian couple?" "What lesbian couple?"
I rather like this show. It makes you think of what you would do in certain situations, as well as what you should do.
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Post by Shane for Wax on May 27, 2011 21:58:26 GMT -5
The guy who gave the note had to be gay or at least bisexual.
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Post by Vypernight on May 28, 2011 5:07:31 GMT -5
The guy who gave the note had to be gay or at least bisexual. He was a Christian too, wasn't he? We need more Christians like that.
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Post by wmdkitty on May 28, 2011 5:29:58 GMT -5
The guy who gave the note had to be gay or at least bisexual. He was a Christian too, wasn't he? We need more Christians like that. Yeah, we do. And he definitely set off the gaydar. (Not that it's relevant or anything.)
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Post by Admiral Lithp on May 28, 2011 5:41:17 GMT -5
I kinda thought they all seemed a bit gay.
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Post by Old Viking on May 28, 2011 18:03:27 GMT -5
We could stage auto accidents so people would perceive the results of poor driving.
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