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Post by stormwarden on Jun 3, 2011 0:17:29 GMT -5
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13624303In a nutshell, a number of former world leaders have come forward, calling the war on drugs a complete failure, after increased use rates in double-digits were found, and that attempts to enforce the laws have only succeeded in fueling drug cartels, amongst other things. Ladies and gents, our tax dollars at work.
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Post by HarleyThomas1002 on Jun 3, 2011 0:25:19 GMT -5
Here Kitty, Kitty...
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Post by dasfuchs on Jun 3, 2011 0:33:57 GMT -5
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Post by lighthorseman on Jun 3, 2011 0:37:38 GMT -5
In other news, water is wet.
But nice to see the people who have spent the past 60 years demanding the tide turn back acknowledge that maybe they were wasting their time.
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Post by Whore of Spamylon on Jun 3, 2011 1:23:26 GMT -5
If only they could have been in a position to do something about it.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Jun 3, 2011 2:10:00 GMT -5
What about the Portugal 'study' where drug use increased AFTER it was decriminalized and drug-related homicides also went up at the same time? I don't think there's a clear answer or a clear middle ground on keeping both drug users and non-drug users safe and that's what sucks. People are going to do drugs no matter WHAT you do. people are going to do drugs in a non-safe manner. People are going to do stupid shit while high on drugs and they're going to hurt other people while on drugs. I wish there was a clear answer. Poire is right as well, gang-related activity won't suddenly stop if you legalize drugs. There's more to gangs than drug peddling.
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jun 3, 2011 5:28:15 GMT -5
Legalizing/decriminalizing drugs is just one step that needs to be taken, true.
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Post by dakotabob on Jun 3, 2011 6:48:15 GMT -5
I just think we all need to come together over a bowl of weed and work this out together.
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Post by scienceisgreen on Jun 3, 2011 8:01:08 GMT -5
The tax revenue for some California towns has gone up pretty well since decriminalization.
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Post by chad sexington on Jun 3, 2011 9:13:41 GMT -5
What about the Portugal 'study' where drug use increased AFTER it was decriminalized and drug-related homicides also went up at the same time? As I understand it, drug use spiked immediately after decriminalisation, but it decreased afterward and continued to do so until they had the lowest rate of drug use in Western Europe. (Although I could well be recalling a flawed study of course)
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Post by Old Viking on Jun 3, 2011 16:44:21 GMT -5
If, after 60 years, a policy has utterly failed by any criteria, and has, in fact, had an effect that is precisely the opposite of the one intended, intelligent people discontinue the policy.
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Post by alexiel on Jun 3, 2011 20:32:26 GMT -5
What about the Portugal 'study' where drug use increased AFTER it was decriminalized and drug-related homicides also went up at the same time? As I understand it, drug use spiked immediately after decriminalisation, but it decreased afterward and continued to do so until they had the lowest rate of drug use in Western Europe. (Although I could well be recalling a flawed study of course) You're not. www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalizationBottom line: Death from drug overdoses dropped over 25%. HIV infection rates caused by dirty needles and things like that dropped 71% Overall the wider public health consequences of drug use became more manageable. Furthermore, it did NOT result in Portugal becoming a land with roads completely paved with cocaine and heroin.
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Post by Whore of Spamylon on Jun 3, 2011 21:19:30 GMT -5
I just think we all need to come together over a bowl of weed and work this out together.
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Post by wmdkitty on Jun 3, 2011 23:00:24 GMT -5
It's about damn time. Now the question is, is the US government intelligent enough to discontinue counterproductive policies, or are we going to keep funding the massive prison-industrial complex?
Yes, folks, that's really all I have to say on the topic.
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Jun 4, 2011 0:56:37 GMT -5
Guess who rejected the report?
Of course the war on drugs isn't working, but that doesn't mean it's going to stop anytime soon.
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