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Post by DarkfireTaimatsu on Jun 28, 2011 3:36:04 GMT -5
Play... I dunno, any RPG, and tell me reading is optional. This is why Zeta can't get through 90% of the Japanese ROMs he sometimes gets saddled with: because he can't read what's going on.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jun 28, 2011 3:36:51 GMT -5
...You are aware that indie games (and a hell of a lot of them) exist, right?
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Post by shadoom2 on Jun 28, 2011 3:37:44 GMT -5
*headdesk* And you all thought I had some oddball opinions... This is only the tip of the iceberg of my weird ideas, and judging from this reaction I should probably keep quiet about the others. @ DarkfireTaimatsu: I haven't played that many RPGs, but in KOTOR half the text is matched by English audio dialogue. And in FPSs you can ignore basically all the text and still get through ok.
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Post by syaoranvee on Jun 28, 2011 3:38:57 GMT -5
Shadoom wishes he was born closer to 1900 instead of 2000, apparently.
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Post by shadoom2 on Jun 28, 2011 3:42:59 GMT -5
Modernity is better than the 1900s, but it would be more better without video games.
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Post by Damen on Jun 28, 2011 3:43:37 GMT -5
Modernity is better than the 1900s, but it would be more better without video games. Don't ignore this thread.
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Post by shadoom2 on Jun 28, 2011 3:56:54 GMT -5
Modernity is better than the 1900s, but it would be more better without video games. Don't ignore this thread. Thank you for alerting me to this. I guess I should move my arguing over there for the moment.
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Jun 28, 2011 4:11:46 GMT -5
But Twilight is only one series of books. The message of books is always different, but every one of them reinforces the reader's literacy. A book cannot exist without reading. With video games, having blocks of text is unusual. For every game with novel length text streams, there are many more with one hundred or less sentences. And these days most games use cut scenes and audio as well as text, so the reading is basically optional. @napoleon the Clown: Multi-national mega-corps don't need protection, it is the people and government that need protection from them. Oh my god, this is either really depressing or really funny. Where does the 1st Amendment say "...unless they are a net harm to society."?
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Post by servo on Jun 28, 2011 4:47:34 GMT -5
People, people...
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Post by Oriet on Jun 28, 2011 5:04:44 GMT -5
Bout damn time video games were recognised as free speech.
Shadoom: With video games, like with any other form of speech, you have the right to not play/read/listen to them. If you don't like them then don't play them, same as if a person doesn't like Fox News they don't have to listen to it. That also means though that people should still have the right to make and play them, as with any other form of communication. Just because you don't like something, including an entire medium, does not mean others don't have the right to utilise it. That's all this ruling does is give protections to video games, it does not make them mandatory in any fashion. Protecting video games as free speech does not violate any of your rights.
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Post by Haseen on Jun 28, 2011 5:49:02 GMT -5
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Post by Amaranth on Jun 28, 2011 7:30:48 GMT -5
I'm disappointed by this. Video games distract society from actual, important, issues, and I think anything that restricts their production or sale (or that of any other distracting product) is good. I also think that using freedom of speech to protect things that made for commercial gain is ridiculous, the point of free speech is to protect political dissent and self expression, not to allow corporations to profit from obscenity. There's already an obscenity exception. That's what this was about, in fact. Also, while I don't always agree with EC, I'm going to point these videos out in terms of productivity: www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2985-Gamificationwww.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3167-Gamifying-EducationThough I think it's rather ridiculous to claim censorship is good because it targets something you particularly have a bugaboo about.
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Post by Amaranth on Jun 28, 2011 7:31:56 GMT -5
Modernity is better than the 1900s, but it would be more better without video games. Much like the argument against novels.
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Post by m52nickerson on Jun 28, 2011 8:01:24 GMT -5
Social Conservatives will ruin anything they can so it was a very damn well needed ruling. Not always, It was Justice Antonin Scalia that wrote the very strongly worded majority opinion and maybe the most social conservative member of the court.
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Post by Amaranth on Jun 28, 2011 8:07:10 GMT -5
Social Conservatives will ruin anything they can so it was a very damn well needed ruling. Not always, It was Justice Antonin Scalia that wrote the very strongly worded majority opinion and maybe the most social conservative member of the court. Of the court, but not the body as a whole.
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