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Post by Amaranth on Jul 2, 2011 7:31:59 GMT -5
I'll just stick with "The Case Against Adolescence" by Robert Epstein. Explains why forcing teenagers to be children has more negative affects than positive. I'd stickwith what I find to be convenient, too. |
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Post by Vene on Jul 2, 2011 11:43:59 GMT -5
I think there's a bit of people talking past each other going on here. Treating teenagers like big children is detrimental to their social development and there is no magical age where they suddenly become adults. But, to try and give them adult rights and responsibilities is also a poor idea and there are good reasons for not legally treating them like adults. Teenagers are in this kind of weird category developmentally. They are mature enough to be sexual, but they still have a lot of mental development left (hell, the brain continues to mature into the 20s). Teenagers do not have the part of the brain developed that lets them think long term, this matures in the 20s, so treating them the same as an adult is a poor idea and will lead to very bad decisions.
Also, there seems to be a lack of understanding of the difference between the age of consent and age of majority. That is a difference that actually does get recognized legally (age of consent commonly being 16 and age of majority being 18). Teenagers are also given extra rights and responsibilities in that they can operate a vehicle before they are a legal adult. They can also work. Even legally, a teenager is not treated the same as a child of 8 or 10 or 5.
Personally, from a purely developmental perspective, I could understand increasing the age of majority. Except for one issue; 18 is when most people graduate from high school and enter the workforce and/or college. Both of these environments assume you're an adult and to increase the age of majority to something more developmentally sound would put teenagers in even more of a limbo position.
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Post by MaybeNever on Jul 2, 2011 13:53:40 GMT -5
** Although it's debatable whether or not your average 18-year-old is either This is really the, er, thrust of my point. There is certainly an emotional and intellectual difference between an 18-year-old and a 16-year-old, but the difference is comparatively trivial overall; 24 or 25 is when people mostly hit their intellectual majority. So I think that it's tough to argue setting the age of pr0nsent to 18 and the age of consent to 16. Maybe make the porn age 25, so that I can see my red-hot barely legal bitches fresh out of graduate school. Although I too think that 16 is probably about right for the age of consent. |
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Post by Vene on Jul 2, 2011 14:05:51 GMT -5
** Although it's debatable whether or not your average 18-year-old is either This is really the, er, thrust of my point. There is certainly an emotional and intellectual difference between an 18-year-old and a 16-year-old, but the difference is comparatively trivial overall; 24 or 25 is when people mostly hit their intellectual majority. So I think that it's tough to argue setting the age of pr0nsent to 18 and the age of consent to 16. Maybe make the porn age 25, so that I can see my red-hot barely legal bitches fresh out of graduate school. Although I too think that 16 is probably about right for the age of consent. But how can they pay for grad school without porn? Unless they can still strip. |
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 2, 2011 15:36:16 GMT -5
24 or 25 is when people mostly hit their intellectual majority. Personally, I plan to hit mine about 45. |
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Post by scotsgit on Jul 2, 2011 18:10:01 GMT -5
Can I kind of go and hide in a corner right now because yeah I'm uncomfortable but part of me thinks this isn't such a big deal because I have my own thread and stuff and maybe people are overreacting but maybe I'm just internalizing stuff and it actually is a big deal I don't know but I feel really awkward and stuff so can I sort of step out of this thread until it gets back to abortion? |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 2, 2011 18:36:50 GMT -5
24 or 25 is when people mostly hit their intellectual majority. Personally, I plan to hit mine about 45. Ha! I'm hitting mine at 60...and then I plan to quickly regress by 65. |
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 2, 2011 19:33:48 GMT -5
Personally, I plan to hit mine about 45. Ha! I'm hitting mine at 60...and then I plan to quickly regress by 65. That's just ridiculous. You won't have time to enjoy it! |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 2, 2011 20:22:20 GMT -5
Ha! I'm hitting mine at 60...and then I plan to quickly regress by 65. That's just ridiculous. You won't have time to enjoy it! mental maturity? What planet are you from? |
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Post by Napoleon the Clown on Jul 2, 2011 20:45:27 GMT -5
Teens have atrocious impulse control. Try to remember high school. And if that brings flashbacks and nightmares, I apologize.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 2, 2011 20:51:48 GMT -5
Enjoy mental maturity? What planet are you from? You wouldn't know it. ...I mean...Ummm...Earth of course... *into wristpiece* Red alert! Send down the brain rape squad! Teens have atrocious impulse control. Try to remember high school. And if that brings flashbacks and nightmares, I apologize. It's a miracle I survived! |
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Post by Rat Of Steel on Jul 2, 2011 21:12:31 GMT -5
That's just ridiculous. You won't have time to enjoy it! mental maturity? What planet are you from? Seconded, oh so very much.  |
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 2, 2011 22:04:49 GMT -5
** Although it's debatable whether or not your average 18-year-old is either This is really the, er, thrust of my point. There is certainly an emotional and intellectual difference between an 18-year-old and a 16-year-old, but the difference is comparatively trivial overall; 24 or 25 is when people mostly hit their intellectual majority. So I think that it's tough to argue setting the age of pr0nsent to 18 and the age of consent to 16. Maybe make the porn age 25, so that I can see my red-hot barely legal bitches fresh out of graduate school. Although I too think that 16 is probably about right for the age of consent. Yeah, my point was mostly that 16-year-olds shouldn't be doing porn, rather than that 18-year-olds should. |
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Post by MaybeNever on Jul 3, 2011 0:34:04 GMT -5
And my point was that girls with master's and/or doctoral degrees are red hot.
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 3, 2011 1:43:36 GMT -5
I propose that we embark on an in-depth study of various types of porn to confirm your hypothesis. Y'know, for science.
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